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Re: People Demand Justice
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2020, 05:52:38 PM »
The checked boxes could probably be expounded on in the "public narrative" section. Instead it reads only "PIU Investigation". There is no indication she was killed anywhere in the report or that a battering ram was used. My police report from being rear ended last year is much more detailed.
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Re: People Demand Justice
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2020, 08:06:33 AM »
The checked boxes could probably be expounded on in the "public narrative" section. Instead it reads only "PIU Investigation". There is no indication she was killed anywhere in the report or that a battering ram was used. My police report from being rear ended last year is much more detailed.

Absolutely agree. Something this major should've had some serious narrative. This looks like the bare minimum they had to provide. 100% dishonest by omission but not falsifying. This is the other extreme of the MSM that paints BT as 100 innocent civilian who happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. The real answer, as per usual, is somewhere in the middle. 

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Re: People Demand Justice
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2020, 08:48:22 AM »
The checked boxes could probably be expounded on in the "public narrative" section. Instead it reads only "PIU Investigation". There is no indication she was killed anywhere in the report or that a battering ram was used. My police report from being rear ended last year is much more detailed.

Absolutely agree. Something this major should've had some serious narrative. This looks like the bare minimum they had to provide. 100% dishonest by omission but not falsifying. This is the other extreme of the MSM that paints BT as 100 innocent civilian who happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. The real answer, as per usual, is somewhere in the middle.

I agree the police were justified in obtaining the search warrant. I am more questioning the standard to which we hold our police. Why serve a search warrant at 1am? I tend to think the officers probably announced themselves once when they first knocked as the one witness accounts. The occupants were probably asleep or just woken up when the announcement was made. No more announcements, just another 45 seconds of door pounding before they battered it in. It sounds like the police were trying to intimidate them. When things went wrong, the police report was 100% dishonest by omission, growing up in a conservative God fearing home, my mother would have said I was lying/falsifying but the semantics are important I suppose. I understand supporting the rule of law, all the support the blue hashtags, but we should expect better. Instead of trying to do better we are chanting black or blue lives matter. One side of the coin directly answers to the public and common sense reforms shouldn't be impossible to implement. As for police unions, imagine how quickly their tune would change of they were financially responsible for their union members behavior.  The city of Louisville paid Brianna's family 12m; immagine of that came out of police pensions, how quickly they could implement reforms.
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Re: People Demand Justice
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2020, 06:59:55 AM »
Understandable for sure. I think most anger should be directed at the War on Drug and no knock warrants. This whole situation was avoidable from that perspective.

As a responsible gun owner it is my responsibility to properly identify a threat. You cannot just start wildly blasting at someone who enters your home. You need to verify that your life is in danger 100%. There are dozens of individuals who are prosecuted for this every year. They likely receive a similar sentencing that the cop got. If the boyfriend lived it's likely he would have been cited in the same manner. When I took a NRA course about this, they were very clear on what you can and cannot do to burglars. That being said it's not entirely relevant to this situation. The whole thing was messed up from the beginning and people just want to throw blame. I thought the ruling was pretty fair. But there are still issue that need to be addressed.


Are you sure about this. This was a case from a long time ago (a Scotsman told me about this):
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-01-21-mn-13822-story.html

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A Scottish businessman shot and killed by a Houston homeowner who apparently mistook him for a burglar was not legally drunk at the time of the early morning incident, the Harris County Medical Examinerís Office said. Andrew Peter De Vries, 28, of Aberdeen, Scotland, had a blood-alcohol level of 0.08% when he was killed earlier this month by Jeffrey Agee, who fired three times through a back door in his house as De Vries was knocking on the door, a medical examinerís office spokeswoman said. A blood-alcohol level of 0.10% is considered legally drunk in Texas. The case will be referred to a state grand jury without charges against Agee, police said.
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