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President Biden
« on: November 07, 2020, 09:39:06 AM »
Well the fat lady is singing loudly. AP and other media outlets are calling Biden the winner. With Arizona and Georgia likely to also go Democrat that will put Biden well over 300 electoral votes. To win Trump would need to get results overturned in multiple states which is not likely. Well i guess we can all get back to normal now :-)

This election was Trumpís to win. But he blew it and now becomes a one term president.

Simply amazing what Biden accomplished given where he was tracking at the beginning of the Democratic primaries.

President Biden. Sleepy Joe, didnít know you had it in you :-)


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Re: President Biden
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2020, 09:44:15 AM »
This election was Trumpís to win. But he blew it and now becomes a one term president.


Somehow this is a shockingly different tune than what had been sung by everyone for the past 4 years, including the months leading into the election where Biden was apparently a 6-10% favorite in FL, MI, AZ, WI, OH, PA, etc...little bit of revisionist history never hurt anyone though.

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Re: President Biden
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2020, 09:55:41 AM »
This election was Trumpís to win. But he blew it and now becomes a one term president.


Somehow this is a shockingly different tune than what had been sung by everyone for the past 4 years, including the months leading into the election where Biden was apparently a 6-10% favorite in FL, MI, AZ, WI, OH, PA, etc...little bit of revisionist history never hurt anyone though.

Depends on your time frame. 

To me it was Trump's to lose, in as much as incumbents very rarely lose, and populations love wartime presidents and he was handed Covid-19.  Then he handled that the way he handled that, and the polls dictated that he had "lost" the election that was his to lose.  Then it became Biden's to lose.

That's my two cents on whose election it was to lose, and when.
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Re: President Biden
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2020, 10:02:10 AM »
Relief sweeps the world and America!  There are more people outside of the White House cheering "Na na na na, good bye!" then there were at Trump's inauguration!   :D  Cheers!
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Re: President Biden
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2020, 10:17:07 AM »
Go 306.
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Re: President Biden
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2020, 10:38:20 AM »
This election was Trumpís to win. But he blew it and now becomes a one term president.


Somehow this is a shockingly different tune than what had been sung by everyone for the past 4 years, including the months leading into the election where Biden was apparently a 6-10% favorite in FL, MI, AZ, WI, OH, PA, etc...little bit of revisionist history never hurt anyone though.

Lots of new information has become available in the past 5 days. Like an election was held and the results were tabulated. What we learned was Trump outperformed expectations and was within a whisker of winning a second term. That was impressive and should be recognized.

Given he was so close it is also normal to ask what could he have done to pick up a few thousand votes? I know, i know. He has had a perfect Presidency and he ran a perfect campaign. His failure to capture the Presidency has nothing to do with his words or actions. It is all a conspiracy. Someone else is to blame for his epic failure (first term Presidents do no lose unless they mess up big time).

What we also know is he lost. And for the Presidential election margin of victory means nothing (win by 1 vote or a landslide). Time for Trump to get his resume updated (and get his legal team staffed up).

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Re: President Biden
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2020, 11:00:17 AM »
You dont think he runs in 2024? I would almost certainly wager he does. He vastly outperformed his 2016 turnout, made significant progress across the board with minority groups, and largely delivered for Republicans what they wanted. If you cant see this you are missing the bigger picture. Ultimately, there is no one in the Republican universe who can match what Trump brings to the table in terms of voter enthusiasm and turnout. 2024 IMO will likely hinge on whether or not the economy recovers to a satisfactory degree. This of course means real progress for black, hispanics, and blue collar white folks. Time will tell if Biden can do this. These are groups that are absolutely sick of the establishment(blue collar white) or starting to turn on it(black and hispanic).

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Re: President Biden
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2020, 11:22:59 AM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-pennsylvania-trump-cast-vote-after-election-day-illegal-ballot-2020-11

Just who exactly was cheating?


I think one of the Michigan(maybe it was Wisconsin) pols said it best when announcing they'd investigate everything. Paraphrasing, "you have one guy who is doing everything he can to rile people up and throw fuel on the fire, and the other guy doesnt seem to care at all that there are some deeply suspicious things that are at least worth looking into"...

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Re: President Biden
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2020, 11:24:55 AM »
You dont think he runs in 2024? I would almost certainly wager he does. He vastly outperformed his 2016 turnout, made significant progress across the board with minority groups, and largely delivered for Republicans what they wanted. If you cant see this you are missing the bigger picture. Ultimately, there is no one in the Republican universe who can match what Trump brings to the table in terms of voter enthusiasm and turnout. 2024 IMO will likely hinge on whether or not the economy recovers to a satisfactory degree. This of course means real progress for black, hispanics, and blue collar white folks. Time will tell if Biden can do this. These are groups that are absolutely sick of the establishment(blue collar white) or starting to turn on it(black and hispanic).

2024 is a long ways away. No idea what happens next week let alone 4 years from now.

What Trump does in his next life will be very interesting to watch. The Republican party will be in a tough spot. I think Trump has built the nucleus of what the Republican party could become (party of the working class). The big risk with Trump is his mental make up - this loss could drive him to be even more extreme/do and say even more crazy things.

The most likely outcome in January is Trump will simply start campaigning for the next Presidential election. Stolen election. Big victim. Big go fund me campaign. His supporters will eat that with a knife and fork. So we get 4 years of Trump doing everything he can to stay relevant. Not that difficult with social media. Not good for the US as the polarization will get much worse. Trumpís brand of politics will not end with him losing the election. People who love him will celebrate. People who hate him will pull their hair out.

What the Republican party does with Trump in the next year will be key. Do they chose country or Trump?