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meiroy

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Re: Republicans kill people and crash the market, every single time
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2020, 09:05:49 PM »
Table 5 is particularly interesting as it shows you which provides the marginal benefit (or cost) to each President. Bush (the 2nd), Trump and Reagan are the "worst offenders". Not surprising particularly with Bush, given post-911 military expenditures and bailouts during 2008 i.e. final year in office. Obama you can see benefit from a high starting position (again the bank bailouts) which were then repaid over his tenure. Trump's tax cut puts him in the red, but my guess is given the COVID spending, he will look historically the worst.

Looking at it from a taxpayer standpoint it seems that a Democratic President and a Republican House are the best combination (marginal at best). But this doesn’t show “attempts” to spend more so draw from it what you want.

To Parsads point....they are absolutely all guilty.
I think you're right if you're a libertarian and want nothing done.

The point is they both like to spend. The republican are worse cause they're MASSIVE hypocrites about the whole thing. They just like to spend on different things. Republicans like things that go boom and tax cuts. Democrats like health care and infrastructure.

If you like things that go boom and tax cuts then you need a republican president and a republican congress. If you want health care and infrastructure you need a democrat president and a democrat congress. On the balance is worse with a republican president and democrat congress than with a democrat president and a republican congress. That's because if you have a democrat president the republicans in congress will go full fiscal responsibility fundamentalist and won't approve a dime. If you have a republican president and a democrat congress you'll throw them some money for pet causes and they'll roll on stuff.

If you want gridlock it's probably better with a democrat in the white house because they're better at government. They'll put competent people in charge. To make sure trains run on time sort of things. Whereas republicans seems to not have a care in the world about that sort of thing.

Writing it all down i realize how messed up it actually is.

Fascinating! Really nicely put.



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Re: Republicans kill people and crash the market, every single time
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2020, 09:18:48 PM »
Trudeau did nothing as well.  Everyone was late to this.  I guess t rude did find time to pump himself up a little.  Here is him calling travel bans to slow Corona virus "knee jerk reactions".  He did an about face and ended up implementing them 2 weeks later. 

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U.S. President Donald Trump has claimed the United States is experiencing a low number of infections because it sealed its borders to travellers coming from outbreak-affected countries.

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced Thursday that coronavirus-related travel bans on foreigners coming from China and Iran will be extended to South Korea.

Australian citizens and permanent residents from those countries can enter Australia, but will be required to self-isolate for two weeks.

Trudeau was asked today if Canada would take similar steps.

"We know that keeping Canadians safe needs to be done in the right way and we're going to keep doing things that actually keep Canadians safe. There is a lot of misinformation out there, there is a lot of knee-jerk reaction that isn't keeping people safe. That is having real, challenging impacts on communities, on community safety."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid19-trudeau-coronavirus-travel-1.5486799


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Re: Republicans kill people and crash the market, every single time
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2020, 04:38:07 AM »
Austria is doing really well, an impressive amount of daily testing -- it seems a local European epicenter was actually in Austria and spread to other countries from there, so it's not like they were spared.  Germany is doing just fine. Israel seems to be OK.

Re. Canada, "Total tests for COVID-19 per million people", Canada is actually 50% higher than the USA.




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Re: Republicans kill people and crash the market, every single time
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2020, 11:14:13 AM »
Great interview

https://youtu.be/siwD29k4tRk

Just shows how the reality TV Star is killing millions of Americans

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We're draining the swamp again:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/trump-removes-independent-watchdog-for-coronavirus-funds-upending-oversight-panel-171943

President Donald Trump has upended the panel of federal watchdogs overseeing implementation of the $2 trillion coronavirus law, tapping a replacement for the Pentagon official who was supposed to lead the effort.

A panel of inspectors general had named Glenn Fine — the acting Pentagon watchdog — to lead the group charged with monitoring the coronavirus relief effort. But Trump on Monday removed Fine from his post, instead naming the EPA inspector general to serve as the temporary Pentagon watchdog in addition to his other responsibilities.

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Vish_ram

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Re: Republicans kill people and crash the market, every single time
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2020, 05:52:11 AM »
100K American deaths. I wonder how R would have reacted if it happened under a Democrat.

We got the American carnage right here, right now. Untold suffering by the poor and lower middle.

With the second wave coming ,we might reach 200K before the election.


Dr. Birx estimated that 200K Americans will die in the best case scenario.

So Trump called this a hoax, cut funding for CDC, shutdown pandemic response team, blocked Azar's request for $2B to get supplies, ....

I wonder if a Dem Prez had done the same, how will the republicans react?

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Re: Republicans kill people and crash the market, every single time
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2020, 07:11:18 PM »
100K American deaths. I wonder how R would have reacted if it happened under a Democrat.

We got the American carnage right here, right now. Untold suffering by the poor and lower middle.

With the second wave coming ,we might reach 200K before the election.


Dr. Birx estimated that 200K Americans will die in the best case scenario.

So Trump called this a hoax, cut funding for CDC, shutdown pandemic response team, blocked Azar's request for $2B to get supplies, ....

I wonder if a Dem Prez had done the same, how will the republicans react?

The 2nd wave will probably happen under a Democrat, so you'll get to find out.  I honestly don't think a Democrat would have handled it significantly better unless the Democrat was already in charge and had a pandemic plan in place.  So if Obama had a 3rd term, yeah he probably would have handled it better than a new Democrat with less experience.  There's things like the denials and delays that cost lives, but I'm not sure a new Democrat would have also bent easily to closing borders, etc, as swiftly as was necessary.  Look at the outcry right now from states that want to open everything back up to normal.  We all know that is going to spike cases, but they don't care.  Would a new democratic president fought them off any harder than Trump...we don't know.  So this is all speculative and creates nothing but divisiveness.  Cheers!
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“Every Republican president since Teddy Roosevelt has experienced a recession in his first two years in office,” says Sam Stovall, chief investment strategist for the research firm CFRA.

In fact, nine of the past 10 recessions in history have begun with a Republican in the White House. And several Republican commanders in chief — Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, and George W. Bush — have presided over multiple economic contractions.

https://money.com/a-100-year-curse-on-gop-presidents-might-explain-why-stocks-are-tumbling/

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Re: Republicans kill people and crash the market, every single timet
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2020, 06:14:14 PM »
Dr. Birx estimated that 200K Americans will die in the best case scenario.

So Trump called this a hoax, cut funding for CDC, shutdown pandemic response team, blocked Azar's request for $2B to get supplies, ....

I wonder if a Dem Prez had done the same, how will the republicans react?

We are already aT 126,000 deaths. With no masks, we will cross 300K by election times. Stunning incompetence by the T administration

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Re: Republicans kill people and crash the market, every single time
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2020, 08:31:56 AM »
There you go, we crossed 200K deaths last week.

Republicans for Population control !!!
Economy is a wreak
Markets collapsing

Time for Trump monarchy

Dr. Birx estimated that 200K Americans will die in the best case scenario.

So Trump called this a hoax, cut funding for CDC, shutdown pandemic response team, blocked Azar's request for $2B to get supplies, ....

I wonder if a Dem Prez had done the same, how will the republicans react?