Author Topic: Safe Neighborhoods In US  (Read 1376 times)

ShaiDardashti

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Re: Safe Neighborhoods In US
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2020, 11:51:31 AM »
Ting Towns, for a variety of reasons (economic, political, demographic, geographic, and more) are uniquely interesting:

1. Centennial, CO
2. Roaring Fork, CO
3. Charlottesville, VA
4. Westminster, MD
5. Fuquay-Varina, NC
6. Holly Springs, NC
7. Rolesville, NC
8. Wake Forest, NC
9. Sandpoint, ID
10. Fullerton, CA
11. Solana Beach, CA

Good read --
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ezpk77/chattanooga-gigabit-fiber-network

Potentially --
Seattle and Palo Alto : 1960s and computer hardware;
Ting Towns : 2030s and cloud computing
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Re: Safe Neighborhoods In US
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2020, 12:09:26 PM »
What's the old saying? Invert, always invert?

Well, then avoid Harrison, Arkansas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmlvk9GAto
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Re: Safe Neighborhoods In US
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2020, 12:22:08 PM »
Ting Towns, for a variety of reasons (economic, political, demographic, geographic, and more) are uniquely interesting:

1. Centennial, CO
2. Roaring Fork, CO
3. Charlottesville, VA
4. Westminster, MD
5. Fuquay-Varina, NC
6. Holly Springs, NC
7. Rolesville, NC
8. Wake Forest, NC
9. Sandpoint, ID
10. Fullerton, CA
11. Solana Beach, CA

Good read --
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ezpk77/chattanooga-gigabit-fiber-network

Potentially --
Seattle and Palo Alto : 1960s and computer hardware;
Ting Towns : 2030s and cloud computing

They can be. But having lived in one of those towns - it was a ****hole, and it was the people that made it so. From all reports it has gotten worse there. Take those lists with a shaker of rock salt.


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Re: Safe Neighborhoods In US
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2020, 12:52:42 PM »
Depends on what size city you're looking for.
As ThePupil may say, I want all the niceties of big cities, lots of restaurants, amenities etc.  As a man of color, I think not having to deal with racism is helpful.  I can usually stare down confrontations before they start.  But you can't help stupid sometimes. 

How has DC fared so far? 

I was in Rome a couple of years ago.  Obviously, people go for the history and the heritage.  The area we were staying at had graffiti all over.  It was not pleasant. I think they do a better job at the more touristy locations keeping things nice and clean.
I think you're going about an impossible question. I'll ramble on for a bit and then get to a point.

You complain about graffiti in Rome. Well Rome is a pretty safe place, but it has graffiti. In fact graffiti is a problem all across Europe but the cities are quite safe. It's just a thing. Police there are not gonna do a Portland because someone used some spray paint. Fact of life.

I know you're asking this thing from a real estate perspective. In that space I've done very well in Raleigh and Pittsburgh. They're pretty techy places they've had money rolling in and it's been good for property (plus I bought at distressed pricing). Do any of these places resemble anything you're looking for? Not at all. On a weekday in Raleigh after 10 PM you can shoot a cannon on a main street down town and not hit anything. You'll come out of a restaurant and not find a cab. Totally dead. No vibrancy at all.

Where I think you go astray is that you would prefer an a-la-carte situation. I'll take the diversity and all the benefits associated with that like vibrancy and skill availability but I'll skip the associated downside like social unrest and graffiti. You can't do that because things don't happen in a vacuum, things are correlated. So if you're looking for an environment similar to NYC you're gonna get upsides and downsides that are similar.

I also think you're getting a little too panicky about the whole thing. Cities happen because there's a real reason that draws people together from an economic and social standpoint together. Some spray paint isn't gonna change that. Rome is a good example. There has been a majour city there for about 3000 years. It's been sacked by nomads, siege by hostile armies, set on fire etc. It's still and always was a majour city. Do you actually think something like spray paint disrupts those underlying bonds?

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Re: Safe Neighborhoods In US
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2020, 01:11:03 PM »
What are people's take on
DC itself has always had terrible racial unrest.


Could you expand on this?  Any other DC natives here who can help me get up to speed on DC.  The headlines doesn't seem to have as much protest and riots in DC recently?  Am I wrong? 

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Re: Safe Neighborhoods In US
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2020, 01:12:50 PM »
Ting Towns, for a variety of reasons (economic, political, demographic, geographic, and more) are uniquely interesting:

1. Centennial, CO
2. Roaring Fork, CO
3. Charlottesville, VA
4. Westminster, MD
5. Fuquay-Varina, NC
6. Holly Springs, NC
7. Rolesville, NC
8. Wake Forest, NC
9. Sandpoint, ID
10. Fullerton, CA
11. Solana Beach, CA

Good read --
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ezpk77/chattanooga-gigabit-fiber-network

Potentially --
Seattle and Palo Alto : 1960s and computer hardware;
Ting Towns : 2030s and cloud computing

I went to school in Charlottesville for 2 years 20 years ago.  The area is lovely.  But I certainly did not feel as comfortable as I did on Long Island as a man of color.  I am not sure if that has changed since then.  It was Abercrombie as F back then. 

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Re: Safe Neighborhoods In US
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2020, 01:13:40 PM »
Just notice that this has been moved to the politics section

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Re: Safe Neighborhoods In US
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2020, 01:30:27 PM »
I know a couple who moved out of NYC this past year to Charleston SC and love it.
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Re: Safe Neighborhoods In US
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2020, 08:27:11 AM »
What are people's take on
DC itself has always had terrible racial unrest.


Could you expand on this?  Any other DC natives here who can help me get up to speed on DC.  The headlines doesn't seem to have as much protest and riots in DC recently?  Am I wrong?

Is there something specific you are looking for BG?

As far as protests, I vew people here as either those that are career-centric and don't have the time to protest or come from lower income strata and don't have the time or care to go.  I live in a neighborhood that is repsresantive of DC population and during protests my entire block was BBQing in the alley, 6ft apart.  Vandalism tends to be more about crime of opportunity rather than to make a statement. If you look at a lot of DC protest pictures and count the people, you'll note that the marches were overwhelmingly white even though DC is 50% black.  Most people with jobs in DC will also try to avoid getting arrested because Federal gov't is such a large employer and that will exclude them from having a job.

Protests have also quieted once it got hot. I have few friends who went for a day or two and then said that it was too hot and humid to go. Incidentally, this isn't the first protest where heat and humidity acted as a deterrent. Worth noting that we get a lot of people outside of DC that come and protest. It's is the capital so statement here probably says a lot more here than say Binghamton, NY.

I, too, spent some time at UVa down in Charlottesville about 10 years back. I felt fine as a member of BIPOC. At least no worse than how I felt on LI or growing up in Brooklyn. Can't recall any issues with the population, police, etc. that wouldn't expected of a decently afluent small-medium sized country town.

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Re: Safe Neighborhoods In US
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2020, 01:55:46 PM »
Cambridge MA and its surrounding towns

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