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Parsad

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So Do They Hate Israel Too!?
« on: August 15, 2019, 03:02:11 PM »
AIPAC sides with Omar and Tlaib.  I guess AIPAC must hate Jews and Israel too, according to the logic of some who post on here!  Cheers!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/politics/aipac-ilhan-omar-rashida-tlaib-israel/index.html
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Re: So Do They Hate Israel Too!?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2019, 05:22:45 PM »
It was mixed news. I was hoping they would be allowed in and that the Mossad would make them disappear or just like former SS.

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Re: So Do They Hate Israel Too!?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2019, 06:20:41 PM »
It was mixed news. I was hoping they would be allowed in and that the Mossad would make them disappear or just like former SS.

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Re: So Do They Hate Israel Too!?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2019, 06:21:02 PM »
Israel obviously had to follow Trump's "request" as it is currently facing Iranian proxies in three fronts and even Iran directly in Syria, with Russia complicating matters.  It needs America.

Omar and Tlaib are textbook examples for a certain anti-American and anti-semite way of thinking, though they themselves are probably not aware of it. They grew up in environments (families, friends) that perpetuates it.   It can be observed not so much by what they say and the occasional slip of the tongue ("she didn't really mean it"), but what they choose not to say compared to what they say.

For example, if you are truly all about "human rights" and "women rights" and so, why are you spending so much time just obsessing about Israel? And no, occasionally mentioning something about Saudi Arabia does not cut it.   What happens these days in Syria, is far worse.  Female genital mutilation is still a thing in many Muslim countries.  What about women rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran or in some Muslim countries in Africa?  Homosexuality punished by death (which it does)? Family honor killing of women? And on and on it goes. There are hundreds of millions out there, suffering under such regimes.  Why are they only obsessing about Israel, just like the UN does? The answer is obvious.




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Re: So Do They Hate Israel Too!?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2019, 06:22:12 PM »
I disagree with the decision. Let them go. But if anything happens, I would expect nothing less from the left, than to continue reiterating that “words and hate speech matter”...

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Re: So Do They Hate Israel Too!?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2019, 06:23:49 PM »

Israel obviously had to follow Trump's "request" as it is currently facing Iranian proxies in three fronts and even Iran directly in Syria, with Russia complicating matters.  It needs America.

Omar and Tlaib are textbook examples for a certain anti-American and anti-semite way of thinking, though they themselves are probably not aware of it. They grew up in environments (families, friends) that perpetuates it.   It can be observed not so much by what they say and the occasional slip of the tongue ("she didn't really mean it"), but what they choose not to say compared to what they say.

For example, if you are truly all about "human rights" and "women rights" and so far, why are you spending so much time just obsessing about Israel? And no, occasionally mentioning something about Saudi Arabia does not cut it.   What happens these days in Syria, is far worse.  Female genital mutilation is still a thing in many Muslim countries.  What about women rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran or in some Muslim countries in Africa?  Homosexuality punished by death (which it does)? Family honor killing of women? And on and on it goes. There are hundreds of millions out there, suffering under such regimes.  Why are they only obsessing about Israel, just like the UN does? The answer is obvious.

If that is true about Omar and Tlaib, what does it say about someone like Trump who stated he grabs women's pussies, been married three times, slept with prostitutes, demonizes all sorts of groups, races, people, countries and fires almost all of his own people and staff?  If you read into what Omar and Tlaib are saying as you have, then Trump must be Caligula!  Cheers!
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Re: So Do They Hate Israel Too!?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2019, 06:33:28 PM »


Parsad,

No need for whatabouttism, I wrote here clearly, multiple times, what I think about Trump and the GOP.

BTW, as a side note, if I'm not mistaken when you look at foreign countries funding of educational institutions in the US, #1 is Qatar and #2 is Saudi Arabia, this is before taking into account money going to "think tanks", lobbyists and straight out bribery etc.  So, you get a country like Qatar, which also funds Hamas in Gaza, to influence American universities.  No wonder you get a rise of extreme-left educators which manufacture people like these two.


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Re: So Do They Hate Israel Too!?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2019, 06:58:42 PM »
meiroy, let’s be real. Both sides have plied America with money for decades hoping to favor support from the world’s superpower.

I also don’t buy your point on their supposedly “unknown” anti-semitism or anti-americanism, I.e by seeing what they don’t say.

I mean, I assume you are a white guy. Now when was the last time you personally made a statement condemning slavery? Because I haven’t seen you do so. So shall I infer your “unknowing” racism? I think not.

Ilhan Omar addresses this very point:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TxaBrLbpW7A

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Re: So Do They Hate Israel Too!?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2019, 07:14:40 PM »
meiroy, let’s be real. Both sides have plied America with money for decades hoping to favor support from the world’s superpower.

I also don’t buy your point on their supposedly “unknown” anti-semitism or anti-americanism, I.e by seeing what they don’t say.

I mean, I assume you are a white guy. Now when was the last time you personally made a statement condemning slavery? Because I haven’t seen you do so. So shall I infer your “unknowing” racism? I think not.

Ilhan Omar addresses this very point:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TxaBrLbpW7A


What do you mean by "both sides"? Do you mean  Israel?  Do you have any idea how rich Qatar and Saudi Arabia are? And, Israel is a democracy, it does not have any "anti-America" agenda.  Qatar has clearly does, and many countries like it do. You completely missed the point.

And, again, your second point is meaningless.  I'll try to make a clearer example, then.

Let's say you are a woman living in America and you are passionate about women rights, or so you say.  Then, out of all the countries in the world, you pick Israel and condemn Israel for its women inequality, which is true:  women in Israel are free to lead the country, free to travel, free to wear what they want etc. but of course it's not perfect (I'm guessing here, for the sake of the example.)

Now, you obsess about women inequality in Israel, and every half-moon maybe mentions something about another country.  You also plan to travel to Israel to inspect and support women rights organizations.

At the same time, women population, a 100,000 bigger than in Israel, is truly suffering discrimination and abuse in other countries, but you don't say much about that.

Do you get it now?

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Re: So Do They Hate Israel Too!?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2019, 07:17:18 PM »
Why in the world would Israel want these 2 losers to visit their country?

Both of them are anti-Semitic and support a total boycott of Israel - which is a legitimate threat to the survival of the world's only Jewish state.
Neither one of these disgraces for Congress have kept any of this a secret.

And now we're surprised that they are not "welcome" in a country they wish does not exist.

How often do any of you make it a practice to invite your enemies that HATE you into your home?