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Supreme Court Decisions
« on: December 08, 2020, 04:47:55 PM »
For our right-wing and left-wing posters who think the Supreme Court cannot think outside of their partisan bases:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/victory-trans-advocates-supreme-court-211755711.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-shuts-down-trump-campaigns-lastditch-pennsylvania-appeal-230128112.html

The system works.  Trump won previously...now Biden won and is President...everyone live with it!  Cheers!
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Re: Supreme Court Decisions
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2020, 05:11:54 PM »
People don't seem to realize that people can sue just about anybody for anything. Proving it is a whole different matter. I could sue JRM tomorrow for some made up reason. It would be promptly thrown out, but some here don't understand how the system works. Suing someone means very little, winning a lawsuit is a different matter.
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Re: Supreme Court Decisions
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2020, 05:20:15 PM »
Apparently when one state sues another state it automatically invokes the Supreme Court.  Very sneaky.  The link above indicates that the supreme court will hear this case.  Expect at least 10 states to join Texas in this case (whatever that means).

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Re: Supreme Court Decisions
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2020, 06:48:27 PM »
Maybe we will finally get secession?

I don't know how the smart people in the middle put up with so much stupidity.

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Re: Supreme Court Decisions
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2020, 07:51:00 PM »
Apparently when one state sues another state it automatically invokes the Supreme Court.  Very sneaky.  The link above indicates that the supreme court will hear this case.  Expect at least 10 states to join Texas in this case (whatever that means).


Are you suggesting that having the case docketed implies SCOTUS will hear the case?  I'm not a lawyer but everything I've read indicates this isn't true.  Mike Kelly's PA case was docketed before being denied today.  It seems some justices (Thomas, Alito) view state v state cases as mandatory, others do not.

There are some good Twitter feeds out there from experts, such as:

https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1336329901859688451
https://twitter.com/jadler1969
https://twitter.com/smmarotta
https://twitter.com/rickhasen

FWIW, one of the expert testimonials in this case involves a 1000% batshit crazy statistical analysis purporting to show there's a 1 in quadrillion chance Binden won the election. The math is so wrong it's hard to even know where to start.   Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of stats (or common sense) can see why.  Alas, fake news has a different take:

https://conservativeroom.com/world-respected-statistician-in-texas-lawsuit-claims-the-probability-of-biden-winning-election-was-one-in-a-quadrillion/

Contrary to this report, Dr. Cicchetti is not a respected statistician. 

Wow.

This election nonsense has really gotten out of hand:
https://twitter.com/donie/status/1336466675554791426




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Re: Supreme Court Decisions
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2020, 04:04:40 AM »
Gotcha.  What is your opinion on the merits of the case?  Were the consent decrees constitutional?

It looks to me like they're asking for the states to respond by Thursday.  But I'm not a lawyer.
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Re: Supreme Court Decisions
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2020, 04:16:04 AM »
Also, it looks like there are two active cases at the state level in Wisconsin and Arizona.  What is your opinion of the merits of these cases?

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Re: Supreme Court Decisions
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2020, 06:17:35 AM »
They are a show to keep conspiratorial minds distracted.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2020, 06:22:29 AM by ERICOPOLY »

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Re: Supreme Court Decisions
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2020, 06:24:52 AM »
"Now with confirmation bias functioning in tandem with this illusory pattern perception, people are not finding all the information that is accurate they're finding all the information whatsoever that would fit into their view of this pattern," he says. "So, more information has actually accelerated the problem more than mitigating it."

This is reinforced by the feeling of accomplishment that often accompanies belief in unsubstantiated theories. People think they are doing a noble thing by exposing such theories. "They feel a moral imperative to unearth the truth and spread it to the masses," says Bowlin.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/conspiracy-theorists-brains-really-are-different.htm