Author Topic: The left is eating itself  (Read 1210 times)

rkbabang

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The left is eating itself
« on: October 29, 2020, 06:05:08 PM »
If you had told me 25 years ago that by 2020 the left would be worse on free speech than the right (and worse war mongers than the right and worse on race than the right) I wouldn't have believed you.

"Today I sent my intention to resign from The Intercept, the news outlet I co-founded in 2013 with Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras, as well as from its parent company First Look Media.

The final, precipitating cause is that The Interceptís editors, in violation of my contractual right of editorial freedom, censored an article I wrote this week, refusing to publish it unless I remove all sections critical of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, the candidate vehemently supported by all New-York-based Intercept editors involved in this effort at suppression."
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/my-resignation-from-the-intercept


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Re: The left is eating itself
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2020, 06:17:13 PM »
It's the inevitable feature of socialism/collectivism.

"The principle that the end justifies the means is in individualist ethics regarded as the denial of all morals. In collectivist ethics it becomes necessarily the supreme rule."

- Frederic Hayek in The Road to Serfdom.


stahleyp

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Re: The left is eating itself
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2020, 06:21:50 PM »
Wow, he is so Bidenophobic and filled with so much hate! Perhaps we should burn him at the stake for his intolerance and hate?

Doesn't he realize that Trump is the next Hitler and that we should do all we can to get rid of that white supremist?
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Re: The left is eating itself
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2020, 07:20:39 PM »
This is an internal squabble in a very obscure new source. Counter is here:
https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-resigns-the-intercept/

I have never heard about The Intercept or any of these journalists before. Can you publish whatever you want if you work for a news service ? I have no idea, but I donít think so. Greenwald needs to find a new employer. Big deal.
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Re: The left is eating itself
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2020, 07:42:26 PM »
At some point people need to stop with all the labels, all the bitching, all the complaining, all the name calling, all the screaming, all the Ďi know it allí, all the hate, all the time.

I tell my kids i would rather be tuned out and and happy than tuned in and angry all the time.
I used to tell my staff that the reason i am so happy all the time time is i am very good at fooling myself.

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Re: The left is eating itself
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2020, 02:07:40 AM »
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I have never heard about The Intercept or any of these journalists before. Can you publish whatever you want if you work for a news service ? I have no idea, but I donít think so. Greenwald needs to find a new employer. Big deal.

He really came to light when Snowden reached out to him which ultimately led him to win a Pulitzer. He is definitely one of the top journalists in his particular area (national security) and I've generally appreciated how he questions/disects evidence.

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Re: The left is eating itself
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2020, 02:35:28 AM »
From a non US perspective - it seems to me that the structure of US media is that is biased one way or the other.  eg Fox News and there are plenty on the other side.  All paid journalists are required by their employer to tilt one way or another.  So why is this is a particular issue?
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Re: The left is eating itself
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2020, 04:17:25 AM »
From a non US perspective - it seems to me that the structure of US media is that is biased one way or the other.  eg Fox News and there are plenty on the other side.  All paid journalists are required by their employer to tilt one way or another.  So why is this is a particular issue?

Yes, thatís how I see it too. Thatís also one reason why I often look at US news through foreign news sources. People may laugh at this, but they should try Aljazeera once in a while.
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Re: The left is eating itself
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2020, 05:01:59 AM »
It's the inevitable feature of socialism/collectivism.

"The principle that the end justifies the means is in individualist ethics regarded as the denial of all morals. In collectivist ethics it becomes necessarily the supreme rule."

- Frederic Hayek in The Road to Serfdom.

+1!!!

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Re: The left is eating itself
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2020, 05:06:32 AM »
From a non US perspective - it seems to me that the structure of US media is that is biased one way or the other.  eg Fox News and there are plenty on the other side.  All paid journalists are required by their employer to tilt one way or another.  So why is this is a particular issue?


Simply because they are not honest about it. If you state you are a biased opinion journalist on either side - good for you - exactly what I'd expect.

When you masquerade as "unbiased", just delivering the news - then it's a scam on the people. Many of these jokers don't even try and
hide their bias anymore - but tell you they are being totally objective.