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Gregmal

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Re: The Terrible Inadequacy of US Election Law-Market Implications
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2020, 11:28:41 AM »
If I remember correctly, Hillary was one of the only candidates in history, to not concede on election night. And it is not like the results were close. This, after she hooted up a storm of conspiracy about Trump "not accepting the election results"...


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Re: The Terrible Inadequacy of US Election Law-Market Implications
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2020, 11:30:27 AM »
Total nonsense, Hillary Clinton ran for President of the United States, she is a Democratic icon and leader.

Excusing her behavior is pathetic.

Using words like nonsense and pathetic distracts from the logic of underlying argument, unless that is what you're going for.  So does trying to argue that someone else did the same thing, and trying to shift the argument to saying that someone else was in the same position as the president.

I'm not trying to justify what Hillary Clinton said.  I agree with you that saying such words undermines our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections.

When someone who is not just running for President, but is a President, says stronger words that they are a bad loser and that they don't know what they will accept the results of the election, it undermines our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections lot more, because it brings images of that person not leaving office, and introduces risk of that person turning into a dictator.

^ I have no idea what you just said - but it appears to be another pathetic attempt to not condemn the Democrats for "undermining our democracy"

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Re: The Terrible Inadequacy of US Election Law-Market Implications
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2020, 11:30:45 AM »
Please move this thread to the politics section, please...

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Re: The Terrible Inadequacy of US Election Law-Market Implications
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2020, 11:49:25 AM »
Total nonsense, Hillary Clinton ran for President of the United States, she is a Democratic icon and leader.

Excusing her behavior is pathetic.

Using words like nonsense and pathetic distracts from the logic of underlying argument, unless that is what you're going for.  So does trying to argue that someone else did the same thing, and trying to shift the argument to saying that someone else was in the same position as the president.

I'm not trying to justify what Hillary Clinton said.  I agree with you that saying such words undermines our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections.

When someone who is not just running for President, but is a President, says stronger words that they are a bad loser and that they don't know what they will accept the results of the election, it undermines our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections lot more, because it brings images of that person not leaving office, and introduces risk of that person turning into a dictator.

^ I have no idea what you just said - but it appears to be another pathetic attempt to not condemn the Democrats for "undermining our democracy"

Learningmachine, thank you for your comments. Rational, factual, balanced. No name calling. Refreshing :-)

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Re: The Terrible Inadequacy of US Election Law-Market Implications
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2020, 12:02:10 PM »
Please move this thread to the politics section, please...

wabuffo

this is an investment thread...at least it was supposed to be.

unfortunately, the typical CoBF board poster is a nerdy, model-using, pocket protector geek who watches [CNN][Fox] incessantly and eats popcorn while studying specious covid community spread models and 538 polls.  I think I will go back and hide in the GSE thread...

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Re: The Terrible Inadequacy of US Election Law-Market Implications
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2020, 12:36:51 PM »
Please move this thread to the politics section, please...

wabuffo

Yes please. Iím sure that those who want to make enormous amounts of money by participating in this valuable discussion can continue doing so in the politics section. They should be happy that an astute investor like Bill will not continue reading this thread: the fewer people know about the inefficiencies discussed here, the more you can earn. Donít share the spoils with those too ignorant to listen.
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Re: The Terrible Inadequacy of US Election Law-Market Implications
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2020, 03:00:48 PM »
Total nonsense, Hillary Clinton ran for President of the United States, she is a Democratic icon and leader.

Excusing her behavior is pathetic.

Using words like nonsense and pathetic distracts from the logic of underlying argument, unless that is what you're going for.  So does trying to argue that someone else did the same thing, and trying to shift the argument to saying that someone else was in the same position as the president.

I'm not trying to justify what Hillary Clinton said.  I agree with you that saying such words undermines our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections.

When someone who is not just running for President, but is a President, says stronger words that they are a bad loser and that they don't know what they will accept the results of the election, it undermines our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections lot more, because it brings images of that person not leaving office, and introduces risk of that person turning into a dictator.

^ I have no idea what you just said - but it appears to be another pathetic attempt to not condemn the Democrats for "undermining our democracy"

Learningmachine, thank you for your comments. Rational, factual, balanced. No name calling. Refreshing :-)

Yeah, makes total sense. Continue the fear mongering/hysteria of the current President, while ignoring the same behavior of the candidate that wanted to be President. Very rational...and balanced...

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Re: The Terrible Inadequacy of US Election Law-Market Implications
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2020, 03:28:24 PM »
Total nonsense, Hillary Clinton ran for President of the United States, she is a Democratic icon and leader.

Excusing her behavior is pathetic.

Using words like nonsense and pathetic distracts from the logic of underlying argument, unless that is what you're going for.  So does trying to argue that someone else did the same thing, and trying to shift the argument to saying that someone else was in the same position as the president.

I'm not trying to justify what Hillary Clinton said.  I agree with you that saying such words undermines our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections.

When someone who is not just running for President, but is a President, says stronger words that they are a bad loser and that they don't know what they will accept the results of the election, it undermines our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections lot more, because it brings images of that person not leaving office, and introduces risk of that person turning into a dictator.

^ I have no idea what you just said - but it appears to be another pathetic attempt to not condemn the Democrats for "undermining our democracy"

Learningmachine, thank you for your comments. Rational, factual, balanced. No name calling. Refreshing :-)

Yeah, makes total sense. Continue the fear mongering/hysteria of the current President, while ignoring the same behavior of the candidate that wanted to be President. Very rational...and balanced...

Let them. Its really only to their own detriment. I have a German investor(senior partner at top 5 global law firm, so obviously not some total retard) who's been bitching about how Trump is going to ruin America since early 2018. He's literally the guy MSM writes articles for. Totally wrapped up in the hysteria. He's insisted on being in CDs with a small exposure to a DAX based ETF to "ride it out". In hind site of course he still thinks he was/is right and that the US based managed account he has with me is just "luck". Idiots will be idiots but fear/hysteria can often throw average to even capable folks into the same results barrel. Look at Howard Marks and his March-June commentary. Pure tail chasing. As some say, "ignore the crowds". Every administration brings with it a new trade theme. Some just more than others. Embrace it and exploit it. Let the media cultivate/groom the people who will take the other side of the trade for you.

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Re: The Terrible Inadequacy of US Election Law-Market Implications
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2020, 04:12:12 PM »
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Re: The Terrible Inadequacy of US Election Law-Market Implications
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2020, 04:42:38 PM »
Total nonsense, Hillary Clinton ran for President of the United States, she is a Democratic icon and leader.

Excusing her behavior is pathetic.

Using words like nonsense and pathetic distracts from the logic of underlying argument, unless that is what you're going for.  So does trying to argue that someone else did the same thing, and trying to shift the argument to saying that someone else was in the same position as the president.

I'm not trying to justify what Hillary Clinton said.  I agree with you that saying such words undermines our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections.

When someone who is not just running for President, but is a President, says stronger words that they are a bad loser and that they don't know what they will accept the results of the election, it undermines our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections lot more, because it brings images of that person not leaving office, and introduces risk of that person turning into a dictator.

^ I have no idea what you just said - but it appears to be another pathetic attempt to not condemn the Democrats for "undermining our democracy"

Learningmachine, thank you for your comments. Rational, factual, balanced. No name calling. Refreshing :-)

Yeah, makes total sense. Continue the fear mongering/hysteria of the current President, while ignoring the same behavior of the candidate that wanted to be President. Very rational...and balanced...

Let them. Its really only to their own detriment. I have a German investor(senior partner at top 5 global law firm, so obviously not some total retard) who's been bitching about how Trump is going to ruin America since early 2018. He's literally the guy MSM writes articles for. Totally wrapped up in the hysteria. He's insisted on being in CDs with a small exposure to a DAX based ETF to "ride it out". In hind site of course he still thinks he was/is right and that the US based managed account he has with me is just "luck". Idiots will be idiots but fear/hysteria can often throw average to even capable folks into the same results barrel. Look at Howard Marks and his March-June commentary. Pure tail chasing. As some say, "ignore the crowds". Every administration brings with it a new trade theme. Some just more than others. Embrace it and exploit it. Let the media cultivate/groom the people who will take the other side of the trade for you.

No reason to use words like idiots.  They distract from rational thinking.

For the record, I'm not suggesting to be in CDs.  Because of our democratic institutions, and because our judiciary is still somewhat independent, in my mind, I've risk of Trump turning into a dictator to be around 5% despite his tendencies to worship dictators and be like dictators.  Low enough probability for me to be ready to invest if the market drops during all the turmoil.

In my mind, the risk of Biden turning into a dictator is orders of magnitude lower, less than 0.1%.  Even though the risk of Trump turning into a dictator is only about 5% in my mind, because of the severity of that probability, I'd unfortunately pick higher taxes over that risk.  The risk of destabilization from Trump trying to divide us makes the choice clearer.  By not being a good role model for citizens, choice becomes clearer.  You can see in this thread alone that people are using similar language to Trump's.  I wonder if these folks were like this 10 years ago in public also.  I'd rather have a better role model for my kids and citizens around me.
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