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Title: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Parsad on October 01, 2020, 10:27:22 PM
So much for Biden wearing a mask all the time.  Science...who pays attention to science!  God chose Trump to be President and if he wants Trump to have Covid-19, so be it.   Cheers!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Parsad on October 01, 2020, 10:28:33 PM
Exactly how close were Trump and Melania to Hope Hicks?  Menage close?  Cheers!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Viking on October 01, 2020, 10:31:01 PM
At the end of the day we all hope both Trump and his wife have a speedy recovery. Health first. And he is in the very high risk group. There will be lots of time for everything else.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: LearningMachine on October 02, 2020, 12:13:22 AM
For someone who thinks about himself first in everything, and who has made numerous false statements under 18 U.S.C 1001 (a), where each false statement is punishable by 5 years of imprisonment, winning this election to avoid any potential charges might be more important than taking serious health risk.

I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised if historians eventually find that this was all planned by Trump.

Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: rkbabang on October 02, 2020, 01:50:48 AM
For someone who thinks about himself first in everything, and who has made numerous false statements under 18 U.S.C 1001 (a), where each false statement is punishable by 5 years of imprisonment, winning this election to avoid any potential charges might be more important than taking serious health risk.

I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised if historians eventually find that this was all planned by Trump.

I doubt he's lying. He'd have to get his doctor to lie as well. This just seems like the type of thing that would come out quickly.  Unless you think he got the virus on purpose? He's old and overweight, which puts him in a high risk group. Getting this on purpose wouldn't be thinking about himself.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Parsad on October 02, 2020, 02:25:34 AM
For someone who thinks about himself first in everything, and who has made numerous false statements under 18 U.S.C 1001 (a), where each false statement is punishable by 5 years of imprisonment, winning this election to avoid any potential charges might be more important than taking serious health risk.

I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised if historians eventually find that this was all planned by Trump.

I doubt he's lying. He'd have to get his doctor to lie as well. This just seems like the type of thing that would come out quickly.  Unless you think he got the virus on purpose? He's old and overweight, which puts him in a high risk group. Getting this on purpose wouldn't be thinking about himself.

Getting his doctor to lie wouldn’t be that hard.  Remember he has the “best cholesterol”!  He’s a specimen of good health.   Cheers!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 02, 2020, 03:19:47 AM
So if Pence becomes President.....how long until the MSM and mouth breathing followers start up the "Pence is really Hitler" and brownshirts/neo nazi/evil Catholic rhetoric?
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Cardboard on October 02, 2020, 03:27:11 AM
Get well Mr. President and First Lady. Our thoughts and prayers are with you for a steady recovery.

Cardboard
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: lnofeisone on October 02, 2020, 03:34:28 AM
A thought (however remote) that Trump might've given it to Biden at the debate has crossed my mind.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 02, 2020, 03:45:49 AM
At the end of the day we all hope both Trump and his wife have a speedy recovery. Health first. And he is in the very high risk group. There will be lots of time for everything else.

The Trumpers said reopening was easy—high risk people like Trump should lock themselves up and everyone else go about their lives. Too bad Trump didn’t take their advice. Even made fun of Joe for wearing a mask and supposedly “being in the basement”...
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Buckeye on October 02, 2020, 03:50:21 AM
So if Pence becomes President.....how long until the MSM and mouth breathing followers start up the "Pence is really Hitler" and brownshirts/neo nazi/evil Catholic rhetoric?

Apparently not as long as it took you to “start it up.”
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 02, 2020, 03:54:02 AM
So if Pence becomes President.....how long until the MSM and mouth breathing followers start up the "Pence is really Hitler" and brownshirts/neo nazi/evil Catholic rhetoric?

Apparently not as long as it took you to “start it up.”

Lol, he’s thinking 20 steps ahead. Has a bright future in political strategy. Could be the next Rove or Bannon.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Cardboard on October 02, 2020, 04:19:37 AM
At least, I know he makes money investing while with all your comments one has to wonder how bread gets to the table?

Cardboard
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 02, 2020, 04:25:03 AM
At least, I know he makes money investing while with all your comments one has to wonder how bread gets to the table?

Cardboard

Ohh it’s been so hard for us since you wished me and my family contracted “the most virulent kind” of covid back in February. You clearly lead by example. Glad to have you back  :-X
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 02, 2020, 04:37:02 AM
Dont fret them. Their cash earns great interest! Although one can only hope getting super bullish in late September and October eventually pays off. Clearly the market is bullish about a Biden Presidency. Its a sure thing. Just like selling everything and even going short because COVID was the end of humanity! The dog chases the tail but when the tail has more wit than the rest of the dog sometimes you just have to let it run around in amusement. No need to put it out of its misery. Its harmless and entertaining.

Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: doc75 on October 02, 2020, 04:50:59 AM
I think the most likely scenario is that he actually tested positive, as advertised.  And given that he has access to the world's best health care I think odds are very good that he recovers without incident.  Following this, I think odds are nearly 100% that he trebles down on the "COVID isn't serious" message.

On a related topic, has anyone else read about the elaborate mechanisms that Putin has put in place (for himself) to avoid COVID?  Some of it can be found here:

https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/topstories/coronavirus-pandemic-russians-were-urged-to-return-to-normal-life-except-for-vladimir-putin/ar-BB19CDf1
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 02, 2020, 05:04:36 AM
He’s most certainly on remdesivir by now and certainly not taking HCQ which he was promoting for the “suckers” among us.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Mephistopheles on October 02, 2020, 05:24:44 AM
For someone who thinks about himself first in everything, and who has made numerous false statements under 18 U.S.C 1001 (a), where each false statement is punishable by 5 years of imprisonment, winning this election to avoid any potential charges might be more important than taking serious health risk.

I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised if historians eventually find that this was all planned by Trump.



Why would he lie about getting sick? What's the benefit? I don't think he would want to be seen as "weak".
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 02, 2020, 05:31:56 AM
For someone who thinks about himself first in everything, and who has made numerous false statements under 18 U.S.C 1001 (a), where each false statement is punishable by 5 years of imprisonment, winning this election to avoid any potential charges might be more important than taking serious health risk.

I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised if historians eventually find that this was all planned by Trump.


Why would he lie about getting sick? What's the benefit? I don't think he would want to be seen as "weak".

Sympathy vote
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 02, 2020, 05:34:00 AM
And folks talk about conspiracy theories and tinfoil hats....
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Castanza on October 02, 2020, 05:34:06 AM
FWIW a friend of mine works in the EEOB. They have been requiring staff to test every five days.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: whiskybravo on October 02, 2020, 05:37:36 AM

<At least, I know he makes money investing while with all your comments one has to wonder how bread gets to the table?

Cardboard>

Read the first post in this thread to see the most incompetent security analysis of this era:

https://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/investment-ideas/amzn-amazon-com-inc/
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 02, 2020, 05:50:30 AM
LOL...don’t be too hard on him, he’s not the only one who dismissed AMZN back in the day (yours truly).

Some of us on here when we can’t debate the points at hand need to make up in our own heads that our debate opponent is a terrible investor to make ourselves feel better about our own selves (“Lol they’ve been all in cash since March—I follow their every post on here lulz”!).

As we saw on Tuesday, the modus of these folks is to yell/ignore the question/topic at hand and deflect by attacking your opponent via projection: about their son’s past drug habits or supposed nepotism.

As they say: “birds of a feather flock together.”
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 02, 2020, 05:58:58 AM
The only one who called AMZN was Whitney Tilson, at $4 a share. And now, he transitioned from hedge fund manager to newsletter seller so that for $5,000 a head, he can share this short of brilliance with everyone, rather than just accredited investors.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: SharperDingaan on October 02, 2020, 06:01:52 AM
The Loser couldn't cut it, and just gave up the election .... ... "I didn't win, cause I got Covid!!!!, and couldn't campaign".
Right up there with those 'losers' in the military who get captured and die.

The man was failing badly, and came out of the debate smelling like dogshit.
Announcing Covid - about the only way of cutting losses, and changing the channel  ;) Distraction ?

Now. we roll the dice. More votes if 'Vice' campaigns? and the chump is kept out of sight ??
More votes still, if the chump is on a ventilator and can't twitter? And worth a lot more still, dead than alive?? Welcome to calculus.

Doesn't seem like much downside.
74, obese, limited exercise, penchant for McDonalds. Feeling lucky?

SD


Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Mephistopheles on October 02, 2020, 06:02:38 AM
For someone who thinks about himself first in everything, and who has made numerous false statements under 18 U.S.C 1001 (a), where each false statement is punishable by 5 years of imprisonment, winning this election to avoid any potential charges might be more important than taking serious health risk.

I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised if historians eventually find that this was all planned by Trump.


Why would he lie about getting sick? What's the benefit? I don't think he would want to be seen as "weak".

Sympathy vote

I just don't see it. What % of voters are truly undecided at this point? Out of those will this really push them to him? These undecided voters are likely see the irony in all of this too given his statements for the past 9 months and attempted coverup. I just think narcissists hate the perception of weakness more than anything. If he is lying than the it would be to take advantage of the news cycle, as it's safe to say this has been one of the worse weeks for him politically. But still that means no rallies for 7-14 days, which is a significant amount of time this close to the election.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Spekulatius on October 02, 2020, 06:10:49 AM
I am not a fan of either Donald or Melanie, but I am wishing both of them to get through this well.

The last thing we need is conspiracy theories ahead of the election.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: doc75 on October 02, 2020, 06:18:23 AM
For someone who thinks about himself first in everything, and who has made numerous false statements under 18 U.S.C 1001 (a), where each false statement is punishable by 5 years of imprisonment, winning this election to avoid any potential charges might be more important than taking serious health risk.

I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised if historians eventually find that this was all planned by Trump.


Why would he lie about getting sick? What's the benefit? I don't think he would want to be seen as "weak".

Sympathy vote

I just don't see it. What % of voters are truly undecided at this point? Out of those will this really push them to him? These undecided voters are likely see the irony in all of this too given his statements for the past 9 months and attempted coverup. I just think narcissists hate the perception of weakness more than anything. If he is lying than the it would be to take advantage of the news cycle, as it's safe to say this has been one of the worse weeks for him politically. But still that means no rallies for 7-14 days, which is a significant amount of time this close to the election.

Agree. 

As I said above, I take the news at face value.  With regards to fakery suggested by other posters, I just assumed their angle was something like:  quick trouble-free recovery further demonstrates COVID is largely a nothing-burger.  I expect messaging to this effect in any case. 



Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cherzeca on October 02, 2020, 06:39:02 AM
I am not a fan of either Donald or Melanie, but I am wishing both of them to get through this well.

The last thing we need is conspiracy theories ahead of the election.

if you are a hetereo male, how can you not be a fan of Melania?

does this infection hurt or help Trump in getting reelected?
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 02, 2020, 06:39:21 AM
The other thing you can’t rule out...

About 48 hrs prior to testing positive, he was in the same room as Biden spewing loads of hot air along with respiratory droplets...
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Castanza on October 02, 2020, 06:52:33 AM
The other thing you can’t rule out...

About 48 hrs prior to testing positive, he was in the same room as Biden spewing loads of hot air along with respiratory droplets...

Can you imagine....I mean, it is 2020!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 02, 2020, 06:58:47 AM
For someone who thinks about himself first in everything, and who has made numerous false statements under 18 U.S.C 1001 (a), where each false statement is punishable by 5 years of imprisonment, winning this election to avoid any potential charges might be more important than taking serious health risk.

I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised if historians eventually find that this was all planned by Trump.


Why would he lie about getting sick? What's the benefit? I don't think he would want to be seen as "weak".

Sympathy vote

I just don't see it. What % of voters are truly undecided at this point? Out of those will this really push them to him? These undecided voters are likely see the irony in all of this too given his statements for the past 9 months and attempted coverup. I just think narcissists hate the perception of weakness more than anything. If he is lying than the it would be to take advantage of the news cycle, as it's safe to say this has been one of the worse weeks for him politically. But still that means no rallies for 7-14 days, which is a significant amount of time this close to the election.

Agree. 

As I said above, I take the news at face value.  With regards to fakery suggested by other posters, I just assumed their angle was something like:  quick trouble-free recovery further demonstrates COVID is largely a nothing-burger.  I expect messaging to this effect in any case.

Just to clarify, when I suggested "sympathy vote" I was only suggesting that thist could be a motive to fake a problem. I actually believe he most likely has the virus because of his disdain for people taking precautions. In legal terms, "He is the author of his own misfortune."
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 02, 2020, 07:08:53 AM
Since he previously stated he was taking HCQ how could this happen?

I have heard that a couple of shots of bleach could fix him right up.
We will see.   This came from a reliable source.

Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 02, 2020, 07:16:18 AM
The other thing you can’t rule out...

About 48 hrs prior to testing positive, he was in the same room as Biden spewing loads of hot air along with respiratory droplets...

Can you imagine....I mean, it is 2020!

The show must go on!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Spekulatius on October 02, 2020, 07:16:56 AM
I am not a fan of either Donald or Melanie, but I am wishing both of them to get through this well.

The last thing we need is conspiracy theories ahead of the election.

if you are a hetereo male, how can you not be a fan of Melania?

does this infection hurt or help Trump in getting reelected?

Because I like woman who give a f*ck. As for election odds, I don’t have a clue, it’s a mixed bag.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Cardboard on October 02, 2020, 07:21:45 AM
Cwericb, don't you find it more normal that both got Covid, while only Trudeau's wife got it? Where was your outcry when that happened?

That really looked like trying to attract some sympathy to support his agenda, unless they no longer touch each other?

Regarding PPE, a cousin of mine caught it while following every precaution in the book. While I do support social distanciation, wearing masks and using your head, it doesn't seem like 100% efficient.

Finally, no matter how much venom you guys put out, Trump remains our best chance to keep our freedom and defend capitalism with Pence 2nd.

Cardboard

Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Jurgis on October 02, 2020, 07:26:23 AM
Since he previously stated he was taking HCQ how could this happen?

I have heard that a couple of shots of bleach could fix him right up.
We will see.   This came from a reliable source.

Unfortunately, due to liberal conspiracy, Papa Trumpy will not be able to shoot bleach.

All Trump supporters should march on the White House and Make Bleach Great Again Make Trump White Again!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: LC on October 02, 2020, 07:28:22 AM

<At least, I know he makes money investing while with all your comments one has to wonder how bread gets to the table?

Cardboard>

Read the first post in this thread to see the most incompetent security analysis of this era:

https://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/investment-ideas/amzn-amazon-com-inc/


Whiskeybravo, you deserve at least a 12-month forum ban for this absolutely disgusting low blow.  ;D
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: adesigar on October 02, 2020, 07:43:02 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1312010736604979201
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: drzola on October 02, 2020, 07:50:07 AM
As an Actual Humanitarian  geesh people et a grip here wtf?
I am currently almost recovered from a brutal aggravated assault on my on soil here and if I can handle this so can you here.
I wish NO one Covid  fatality.
Stay Safe folks.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Cardboard on October 02, 2020, 07:54:42 AM
Actually most of my analysis on ScamZon remains bang on as it never made a dime in profit. Ok, 120+ times earnings with $1.6 trillion market cap or vast overvaluation vs GOOG, AAPL, MSFT, FB growing at similar rates.

Where I failed is my lack of appreciation for human imbecility and belief in hot air.

Never in human history was someone told to just sell at breakeven to a loss to steal market share from competitors and be rewarded by Wall Street. Eventually investors demand dividends or some return of/on capital or to at least see earnings.

Cardboard
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: orthopa on October 02, 2020, 08:31:18 AM
So much for Biden wearing a mask all the time.  Science...who pays attention to science!  God chose Trump to be President and if he wants Trump to have Covid-19, so be it.   Cheers!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html

I'm actually quite surprised he got it considering he is a human and we know COVID19 infects humans. Wow, crazy.

Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 02, 2020, 08:42:52 AM
Cardboard:

“Cwericb, don't you find it more normal that both got Covid, while only Trudeau's wife got it? Where was your outcry when that happened?”

Outcry about what? What does Trudeau have to do with this? Are you once again trying to suggest I support Trudeau? I have told you numerous times that I am no fan of Trudeau’s and have not nor am I likely ever to vote for his party. I am not sure what you are getting at.
         
“That really looked like trying to attract some sympathy to support his agenda, unless they no longer touch each other?”

I already clarified my suggestion regarding a sympathy vote. Please read my earlier post. I have no interest regarding what happens between Trudeau and his wife. But your remark just seems sleazy. Do you have some special interest in their relationship?

“Regarding PPE, a cousin of mine caught it while following every precaution in the book. While I do support social distanciation, wearing masks and using your head, it doesn't seem like 100% efficient.”

This I agree with. I try to wear a mask while shopping, but I realize it is primarily for the protection of others. And yes it is unfortunate, but nothing appears to be 100% efficient. Hopefully that may come.

“Finally, no matter how much venom you guys put out, Trump remains our best chance to keep our freedom and defend capitalism with Pence 2nd.”

Well, I simply don't agree. I think he is a threat to democracy and the only capitalism he has any interest in is his own pocket.

It surprises me that you can simply ignore things like his tax records, mental issues, and his stance on racial issues and still support him.

I believe he would like nothing better than to put himself in a position similar to that of Putin in Russia. Trump demands loyalty from government officials to himself personally rather than his  country. And you find that acceptable? He has also gone to great lengths to discredit the results of the election should he lose. The US is not a third world country and they should be fully capable of holding an election, no matter what Trump and some of his governors attempt.

You have your opinions, I have mine and we both believe we are right.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: dwy000 on October 02, 2020, 08:46:34 AM
So much for Biden wearing a mask all the time.  Science...who pays attention to science!  God chose Trump to be President and if he wants Trump to have Covid-19, so be it.   Cheers!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html

I'm actually quite surprised he got it considering he is a human and we know COVID19 infects humans. Wow, crazy.

I'm actually more surprised that Melania got it.  Doesn't she need to come within 6 feet of Donald to get it?
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: rkbabang on October 02, 2020, 08:53:00 AM
Since we've had nothing but left wing conspiracy theories in this thread, to add balance to the discussion, here's a right wing one.

https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/status/1311959767842250752

I think this would be the first assassination attempt on a president using a biological weapon.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: rb on October 02, 2020, 08:54:33 AM
So much for Biden wearing a mask all the time.  Science...who pays attention to science!  God chose Trump to be President and if he wants Trump to have Covid-19, so be it.   Cheers!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html

I'm actually quite surprised he got it considering he is a human and we know COVID19 infects humans. Wow, crazy.

I'm actually more surprised that Melania got it.  Doesn't she need to come within 6 feet of Donald to get it?
Probably got it from Hicks  ;D
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 02, 2020, 09:00:45 AM
@cwericb

Here you go.

https://therealdeal.com/chicago/2020/10/01/heres-why-trump-loves-depreciation/amp/

“It is extremely common in just about every real estate deal as long as it is a business.”

Might help you and the uninformed understand the tax accounting, especially for folks, like Trump, who are involved with a lot of real estate.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: rb on October 02, 2020, 09:04:25 AM
Since we've had nothing but left wing conspiracy theories in this thread, to add balance to the discussion, here's a right wing one.

https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/status/1311959767842250752

I think this would be the first assassination attempt on a president using a biological weapon.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! breathes HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Sure. It makes sense considering the source. The woman was crazy enough to run against Nancy Pelosi.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 02, 2020, 09:13:26 AM
@cwericb

Here you go.

https://therealdeal.com/chicago/2020/10/01/heres-why-trump-loves-depreciation/amp/

“It is extremely common in just about every real estate deal as long as it is a business.”

Might help you and the uninformed understand the tax accounting, especially for folks, like Trump, who are involved with a lot of real estate.

Well aware of depreciation - and the pain of recapture. :)
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: LC on October 02, 2020, 09:14:47 AM
@cwericb

Here you go.

https://therealdeal.com/chicago/2020/10/01/heres-why-trump-loves-depreciation/amp/

“It is extremely common in just about every real estate deal as long as it is a business.”

Might help you and the uninformed understand the tax accounting, especially for folks, like Trump, who are involved with a lot of real estate.

Accelerated depreciation has nothing to do with inflated expenses from above-market related party transactions or having two sets of valuations on a single property.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Mephistopheles on October 02, 2020, 09:36:54 AM
Since we've had nothing but left wing conspiracy theories in this thread, to add balance to the discussion, here's a right wing one.

https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/status/1311959767842250752

I think this would be the first assassination attempt on a president using a biological weapon.


Someone mentioned Melania being attractive earlier in the thread. Despite being as shallow a male as I am, I've realized how much personality matters. Melania, Kaley McEnany, and this psycho would be much hotter if they weren't their crazy selves.

Same goes for AOC.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: changegonnacome on October 02, 2020, 09:42:37 AM
Donald Trump doesn’t have the coronavirus...................Coronovirus has Donald Trump  ;)
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 02, 2020, 09:43:26 AM
Since we've had nothing but left wing conspiracy theories in this thread, to add balance to the discussion, here's a right wing one.

https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/status/1311959767842250752

I think this would be the first assassination attempt on a president using a biological weapon.


Someone mentioned Melania being attractive earlier in the thread. Despite being as shallow a male as I am, I've realized how much personality matters. Melania, Kaley McEnany, and this psycho would be much hotter if they weren't their crazy selves.

Same goes for AOC.

Anyone remember that Canadian band, Northern Pikes? They still get a lot of airplay with "She ain't pretty, she just looks that way." Words to live by.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: rb on October 02, 2020, 10:10:59 AM
Since we've had nothing but left wing conspiracy theories in this thread, to add balance to the discussion, here's a right wing one.

https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/status/1311959767842250752

I think this would be the first assassination attempt on a president using a biological weapon.


Someone mentioned Melania being attractive earlier in the thread. Despite being as shallow a male as I am, I've realized how much personality matters. Melania, Kaley McEnany, and this psycho would be much hotter if they weren't their crazy selves.

Same goes for AOC.
Speaking about Melania being attractive. I couldn't help myself to laugh at this reply to the crazy tweet. True Christian and coveting the wife in one tweet. That is impressing.

https://twitter.com/LizaZamot/status/1311960438091939842
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 02, 2020, 10:19:56 AM
Since we've had nothing but left wing conspiracy theories in this thread, to add balance to the discussion, here's a right wing one.

https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/status/1311959767842250752

I think this would be the first assassination attempt on a president using a biological weapon.


Someone mentioned Melania being attractive earlier in the thread. Despite being as shallow a male as I am, I've realized how much personality matters. Melania, Kaley McEnany, and this psycho would be much hotter if they weren't their crazy selves.

Same goes for AOC.

Many of the Trump women, look fake and plastic. Not a fan. Melania particularly...lot of botox.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Cardboard on October 02, 2020, 10:42:24 AM
Poor Cwericb,

I can't believe that personal traits (of Donald) affect so much your vision of things or for a so called Conservative. Were you some Trojan horse when you were involved with the Party?

Despite Hitler and now Putin comparisons, truth is that the man is all about freedom. Unlike the other bunch, he does not put laws in place to force us to eat a certain way, to believe a certain way, to drive a certain car, to give more and more money to favored groups and to dictate about every aspect of our lives.

He let us live our lives and encourages meritocracy and human ingenuity to solve issues.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Viking on October 02, 2020, 11:14:07 AM
What is one issue that is very important to voters in this election? Cornavirus. Not sure why. But it is. Surprised it is not gone by now. A second really important issue is heath care. Both also happen to be Trump’s kryptonite.

So trailing badly in the polls, getting roughed up by Sleepy Joe in the debate, what happens? Trump contracts the virus. He is undoubtedly a genius. He takes his worst two issues and makes them THE issues for the remainder of the campaign. When he is already trailing by 7-8% in national polls. With 31 days to go until the election.

Now what does Trump do when he learns someone he has been in close contact with has contracted the virus? He flies to New Jersey to take part in a fundraiser - putting all those he and his staff come into contact with at risk of contracting the virus. No self quarantine.

Why would he do this? Only an selfish idiot would knowingly put other people's lives at risk. Great! All the qualities a large swath of the voting public apparently wants in their President.
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- https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/02/us/trump-vs-biden?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#trump-went-ahead-with-his-new-jersey-fund-raiser-after-hope-hicks-tested-positive

President Trump’s campaign manager, Bill Stepien, told aides Friday in an email that any campaign staff members who came into contact with someone who tested positive for the coronavirus should “immediately begin self-quarantine.”

“It is on all of us to continue to exercise the smart judgment and practices the campaign has long encouraged: wear a mask, wash your hands, socially distance” and work from home if feeling ill, the email said.
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Bill, someone clearly forgot to tell the President. It must have been written on a piece of paper. (Trump doesn’t like to read.)

Bill here is a suggestion... if you want the President to know something give it to FOX news.

Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Viking on October 02, 2020, 12:08:21 PM
You cannot make this stuff up...
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On Tuesday, at his first debate with Mr. Biden, Mr. Trump ridiculed his opponent, a fellow septuagenarian, for his precautions.

“I don’t wear masks like him,” the president said. “Every time you see him, he’s got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet away from it. And he shows up with the biggest mask I’ve ever seen.”

- https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-campaign.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 02, 2020, 12:15:53 PM
You cannot make this stuff up...
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On Tuesday, at his first debate with Mr. Biden, Mr. Trump ridiculed his opponent, a fellow septuagenarian, for his precautions.

“I don’t wear masks like him,” the president said. “Every time you see him, he’s got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet away from it. And he shows up with the biggest mask I’ve ever seen.”

- https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-campaign.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage


Viking that already happened. Its not new. I thought you watched the debate, enough to declare a surefire winner?

Although granted, last time around everyone said Hillary won every debate. And they also referenced her lead in the polls...
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Parsad on October 02, 2020, 12:57:12 PM
So if Pence becomes President.....how long until the MSM and mouth breathing followers start up the "Pence is really Hitler" and brownshirts/neo nazi/evil Catholic rhetoric?

Apparently not as long as it took you to “start it up.”

+1!  Cheers!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: LC on October 02, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Since we've had nothing but left wing conspiracy theories in this thread, to add balance to the discussion, here's a right wing one.

https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/status/1311959767842250752

I think this would be the first assassination attempt on a president using a biological weapon.

It gets even better:
https://i.imgur.com/hjFNmOT.jpg

Assassinated by his own stupidity, perhaps?  ;D
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Parsad on October 02, 2020, 01:40:00 PM
So much for Biden wearing a mask all the time.  Science...who pays attention to science!  God chose Trump to be President and if he wants Trump to have Covid-19, so be it.   Cheers!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html

I'm actually quite surprised he got it considering he is a human and we know COVID19 infects humans. Wow, crazy.

I'm actually more surprised that Melania got it.  Doesn't she need to come within 6 feet of Donald to get it?
Probably got it from Hicks  ;D

I'd be willing to get it from Hicks...don't care if she is a right-wing Nazi!   ;D  Cheers!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 02, 2020, 01:46:47 PM
So much for Biden wearing a mask all the time.  Science...who pays attention to science!  God chose Trump to be President and if he wants Trump to have Covid-19, so be it.   Cheers!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html

I'm actually quite surprised he got it considering he is a human and we know COVID19 infects humans. Wow, crazy.

I'm actually more surprised that Melania got it.  Doesn't she need to come within 6 feet of Donald to get it?
Probably got it from Hicks  ;D

I'd be willing to get it from Hicks...don't care if she is a right-wing Nazi!   ;D  Cheers!

Eskimo brothers with Corey Lewandowski! How bipartisan of you!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Viking on October 02, 2020, 02:48:28 PM
You cannot make this stuff up...
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On Tuesday, at his first debate with Mr. Biden, Mr. Trump ridiculed his opponent, a fellow septuagenarian, for his precautions.

“I don’t wear masks like him,” the president said. “Every time you see him, he’s got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet away from it. And he shows up with the biggest mask I’ve ever seen.”

- https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-campaign.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage


Viking that already happened. Its not new. I thought you watched the debate, enough to declare a surefire winner?

Although granted, last time around everyone said Hillary won every debate. And they also referenced her lead in the polls...

Sorry, my post was an attempt humour but clearly is failed with some readers.

Irony: the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

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Chris Wallace is a little more direct...

Chris Wallace, Awaiting Virus Test, Tells Fox News Viewers: ‘Wear the Damn Mask’
- The anchor, who sat about 12 feet from President Trump at Tuesday’s debate, also criticized one of Mr. Trump’s pandemic advisers.

Recounting his experience at Tuesday’s debate, Mr. Wallace told viewers that members of Mr. Trump’s family removed their masks after entering the debate hall in violation of the rules of the Cleveland Clinic, which had been contracted to oversee the health and safety protocols for the event. “A health person from the Cleveland Clinic came up to the first family when they were seated and offered them masks in case they didn’t have them, and they were waved away,” the anchor recalled.

- https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/business/media/chris-wallace-trump-coronavirus.html

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Now for those people on this board who do not understand you wear a mask, among other things, to protect others if you have the virus and do not know it. When people do not wear a mask when they are in close proximity with others they are disrespecting those they are in close proximity with. That is because with this virus you can be in the contagious phase and not know it. Trump and his team had the virus, likely for days, did not know it and were in close proximity with hundreds of people. We will find out in the coming weeks how many people Trump and his entourage infected and we will find out in a month or so if anyone dies as a result. Hopefully he has not been a super-spreader (not something you want to be GREAT at).

The fact that mask wearing is controversial in much of the US tells you all you need to know how well Trump has handled the virus. Ignoring social distancing is a second fatal mistake.

His handling of the virus is a train wreck now in plain view for everyone in the US to see. Further it provides great insight into how he has been managing the US for the past 3.5 years.

Remember, most of the top Republican appointees in his administration who have left have all uniformly said he is a danger to the US and ‘unfit to govern’. Maybe, just maybe that might not be fake news. (That last line is my attempt at sarcasm :-)
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 02, 2020, 03:14:39 PM
Since we've had nothing but left wing conspiracy theories in this thread, to add balance to the discussion, here's a right wing one.

https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/status/1311959767842250752

I think this would be the first assassination attempt on a president using a biological weapon.

It gets even better:
https://i.imgur.com/hjFNmOT.jpg

Assassinated by his own stupidity, perhaps?  ;D

In the old days this meant natural selection: the damage would be confined to the individual/close associates who do dumb things (in this case not wearing masks, etc).

Now with industrialization/interconnectedness, we all get to share in some of the damage--i.e. pandemics and climate change. The more they deny it, the more pain for everyone!

Idiocracy, here we come!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Spekulatius on October 02, 2020, 03:30:36 PM
Yes, we have amateur’s running the White House currently. Two piece of evidence just today
1) The COVID-19 outbreak today (with at least 4 people affected) shows that apparently no precautions are in place. Most office building using based precautions like masks, social distancing don’t have outbreaks like this. I know mine with a few hundred people working in office and manufacturing environment didn’t. We had isolated cases, which contracted COVID-19 elsewhere, but no outbreak. A normal office doesn’t have access to on site rapid testing and a secret service screening people and who knows what else. So it’s clear the White House isn’t run well.

2) It hasn’t grabbed much attention, but what to make of the fact that the Melanie tape leaked out through her former aide? How can it be that a former aide can record a conversation with her personal phone in the White House apparently Nilly Willy. Government officials shouldn’t even use their personal phones for anything, should be screened and all that. This isn’t the first leak either, so it is clear that basic security protocols don’t seem to be in place.

It is hard to believe that nations with strong spying capability hasn’t punched holes into what appears to be leaky boat to begin with. And then we are concerned about the security risk created by a short form Video site of Chinese Origin. C’mon.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Spekulatius on October 02, 2020, 03:39:09 PM
No HCQ for Trump apparently, he is getting the good stuff:
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-covid19-test-white-house-99b30c9b-604d-4ab4-9914-b4cee28e7c6d.html (https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-covid19-test-white-house-99b30c9b-604d-4ab4-9914-b4cee28e7c6d.html)

The Zinc, Vitamin D makes sense, I take it daily as well. I also have Melatonin at home, but don’t take it. It helps you go to sleep, but my wife states that one can get used to it and the have trouble sleeping when getting off from this supplement.

Quote
: "Following PCR-confirmation of the President's diagnosis, as a precautionary measure he received a single 8 gram dose of Regeneron's polyclonal antibody cocktail," Conley said.

"He completed the infusion without incident. In addition to the polyclonal antibodies, the President has been taking zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and a daily aspirin."
Trump is "fatigued but in good spirits," Conley said, while the first lady has "a mild cough and headache."
Zoom in: Regeneron Pharmaceuticals announced earlier this week that its coronavirus antibody cocktail reduced viral load for patients enrolled in early and late-stage trials — which are ongoing.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 02, 2020, 03:51:08 PM
I think we've found a super spreader...

Quote
Mr. Trump has held increasingly crowded campaign events in recent weeks in defiance of public health guidelines and sometimes state and local governments. 

On Thursday, Mr. Trump attended a fund-raiser at his golf club at Bedminster, N.J. One attendee there said the president came in contact with about 100 people, and seemed lethargic.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/02/world/covid-19-coronavirus
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 02, 2020, 03:54:28 PM
No HCQ for Trump apparently, he is getting the good stuff:
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-covid19-test-white-house-99b30c9b-604d-4ab4-9914-b4cee28e7c6d.html (https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-covid19-test-white-house-99b30c9b-604d-4ab4-9914-b4cee28e7c6d.html)

The Zinc, Vitamin D makes sense, I take it daily as well. I also have Melatonin at home, but don’t take it. It helps you go to sleep, but my wife states that one can get used to it and the have trouble sleeping when getting off from this supplement.

Quote
: "Following PCR-confirmation of the President's diagnosis, as a precautionary measure he received a single 8 gram dose of Regeneron's polyclonal antibody cocktail," Conley said.

"He completed the infusion without incident. In addition to the polyclonal antibodies, the President has been taking zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and a daily aspirin."
Trump is "fatigued but in good spirits," Conley said, while the first lady has "a mild cough and headache."
Zoom in: Regeneron Pharmaceuticals announced earlier this week that its coronavirus antibody cocktail reduced viral load for patients enrolled in early and late-stage trials — which are ongoing.

HCQ is for the suckers who listen to Trump and attend his rallies and fundraisers. Trump, on the other hand, gets the Regeneron antibody cocktail + Remdesivir within 8 hrs of testing positive.

Good luck dealing with your own covid infection..."sucker"...
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: rb on October 02, 2020, 03:56:12 PM
Yes, we have amateur’s running the White House currently. Two piece of evidence just today
1) The COVID-19 outbreak today (with at least 4 people affected) shows that apparently no precautions are in place. Most office building using based precautions like masks, social distancing don’t have outbreaks like this. I know mine with a few hundred people working in office and manufacturing environment didn’t. We had isolated cases, which contracted COVID-19 elsewhere, but no outbreak. A normal office doesn’t have access to on site rapid testing and a secret service screening people and who knows what else. So it’s clear the White House isn’t run well.

2) It hasn’t grabbed much attention, but what to make of the fact that the Melanie tape leaked out through her former aide? How can it be that a former aide can record a conversation with her personal phone in the White House apparently Nilly Willy. Government officials shouldn’t even use their personal phones for anything, should be screened and all that. This isn’t the first leak either, so it is clear that basic security protocols don’t seem to be in place.

It is hard to believe that nations with strong spying capability hasn’t punched holes into what appears to be leaky boat to begin with. And then we are concerned about the security risk created by a short form Video site of Chinese Origin. C’mon.
You second point makes some point. But we knew weeks ago that Melania's aide had tapes, nothing new.

As for the security protocols stuff, this is nothing. Do you remember that Omarosa taped the Chief of Staff in the situation room? Isn't that supposed to be like the most secure place on Earth or something? Omarosa. Joke!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Castanza on October 02, 2020, 05:00:05 PM
CNN “If Trump can’t get out there on the campaign trail over the next two weeks he will have to rely on his surrogates. Unfortunately, one of his surrogates is Vladimir Putin.”

  :o Simply amazing....the Counterfeit News Network at it again....
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Parsad on October 02, 2020, 05:38:54 PM
So much for Biden wearing a mask all the time.  Science...who pays attention to science!  God chose Trump to be President and if he wants Trump to have Covid-19, so be it.   Cheers!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html

I'm actually quite surprised he got it considering he is a human and we know COVID19 infects humans. Wow, crazy.

I'm actually more surprised that Melania got it.  Doesn't she need to come within 6 feet of Donald to get it?
Probably got it from Hicks  ;D

I'd be willing to get it from Hicks...don't care if she is a right-wing Nazi!   ;D  Cheers!

Eskimo brothers with Corey Lewandowski! How bipartisan of you!

Anything to end this divisiveness and move the healing foward!  I'm looking at you Stacey Dash.  Cheers!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Cigarbutt on October 02, 2020, 09:10:47 PM
No HCQ for Trump apparently, he is getting the good stuff:
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-covid19-test-white-house-99b30c9b-604d-4ab4-9914-b4cee28e7c6d.html (https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-covid19-test-white-house-99b30c9b-604d-4ab4-9914-b4cee28e7c6d.html)
The Zinc, Vitamin D makes sense, I take it daily as well. I also have Melatonin at home, but don’t take it. It helps you go to sleep, but my wife states that one can get used to it and the have trouble sleeping when getting off from this supplement.
Quote
: "Following PCR-confirmation of the President's diagnosis, as a precautionary measure he received a single 8 gram dose of Regeneron's polyclonal antibody cocktail," Conley said.
"He completed the infusion without incident. In addition to the polyclonal antibodies, the President has been taking zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and a daily aspirin."
Trump is "fatigued but in good spirits," Conley said, while the first lady has "a mild cough and headache."
Zoom in: Regeneron Pharmaceuticals announced earlier this week that its coronavirus antibody cocktail reduced viral load for patients enrolled in early and late-stage trials — which are ongoing.
There's been also a flurry of fundamental papers published lately about interferon and, when looking at various alternative channels, many suggest that it should be made immediately available, for compassionate use at least:
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/09/28/interferon-and-the-coronavirus
i've been following interferons for a long time (the molecules were identified in the 1950s) and it seems it's always on the verge of a cambrian explosion (cancers, immune disorders, infections, others etc). And i guess coronavirus fits the bill also.
(https://image.slidesharecdn.com/interferonhistoryslides-icis-190130134542/95/history-of-interferon-slides-6-638.jpg?cb=1548856156)
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Spekulatius on October 03, 2020, 07:12:23 AM
^ Schering Plough had a pegylated Interferon against Hepatitis C On the market. I think it was the first approved treatment, but side effects were severe, mir I remember correctly. It seems that all Interferon treatments are replaced by better Treatments quickly. They see to work in many cases, but just not good enough.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Value^2 on October 03, 2020, 09:01:49 AM
What's the likelihood that Trump's COVID infection is backup plan for deep state? Remember (now well documented) crossfire hurricane ,that show how far those MFs are willing to go.

I think it's quite close 100%.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Spekulatius on October 03, 2020, 09:10:31 AM
What's the likelihood that Trump's COVID infection is backup plan for deep state? Remember (now well documented) crossfire hurricane ,that show how far those MFs are willing to go.

I think it's quite close 100%.

Try Occam’s razors once in a while. They are cutting it closer to the truth usually.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Viking on October 03, 2020, 12:14:45 PM
Trump hosted a big party last Saturday to celebrate his supreme court pick. Someone should remind him that there is a nasty virus going around...

Social distancing? Nope. Masks? Nope (no, having a mask in your pocket does not count). Hand shaking and fist pumping? Yup. Hugs? Yup. All people tested before the event? Nope. Virus present? Yup.

Result? The best example to date of this President’s utter incompetence. And the incompetence of the people around him (all ‘yes-men’, which, i know, had nothing to do with this epic fail). He not only exposes himself, he exposes members of his family, the US political and military leadership. How many people did he infect? The list reads like a who’s who of the Republican leadership in the US. Holy shit batman. Really?

Reading about Trumps party is like reading about that stupid young kid who throws a big shaker for 150 of his closest friends that becomes a super-spreader event. Idiotic. Irresponsible. But as Forest Gump famously said ‘stupid is as stupid does.’

Inside one celebration that helped spread the virus across the US government
- https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/03/politics/trump-covid-amy-coney-barrett-event/index.html
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Jurgis on October 03, 2020, 12:32:58 PM
Trump hosted a big party last Saturday to celebrate his supreme court pick. Someone should remind him that there is a nasty virus going around...

...

At least he did not give everyone crabs.


Small victories
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: rb on October 03, 2020, 04:01:35 PM
Trump hosted a big party last Saturday to celebrate his supreme court pick. Someone should remind him that there is a nasty virus going around...

...

At least he did not give everyone crabs.


Small victories
That you know of.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Spekulatius on October 03, 2020, 04:58:20 PM
CNN “If Trump can’t get out there on the campaign trail over the next two weeks he will have to rely on his surrogates. Unfortunately, one of his surrogates is Vladimir Putin.”

  :o Simply amazing....the Counterfeit News Network at it again....

The front page of CNN.COM is basically 90% about Trump. You could call it almost TNN (Trump News network) now. In a way Trump is the best thing they ever happened to them in terms of user engagement.

Fox News is the same, they just take the other side.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: rb on October 03, 2020, 05:06:30 PM
CNN “If Trump can’t get out there on the campaign trail over the next two weeks he will have to rely on his surrogates. Unfortunately, one of his surrogates is Vladimir Putin.”

  :o Simply amazing....the Counterfeit News Network at it again....

The front page of CNN.COM is basically 90% about Trump. You could call it almost TNN (Trump News network) now. In a way Trump is the best thing they ever happened to them in terms of user engagement.

Fox News is the same, they just take the other side.
That's pretty spot on. CNN and Fox have both been entertainment networks for a long time. Well before the current Trump dumpster fire. I don't know why anyone pretends otherwise.

In the good ol' days when John Stewart was at the daily show they were pretty much equally ridiculed on a regular basis. Kudos to him. 
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Castanza on October 03, 2020, 06:05:30 PM
CNN “If Trump can’t get out there on the campaign trail over the next two weeks he will have to rely on his surrogates. Unfortunately, one of his surrogates is Vladimir Putin.”

  :o Simply amazing....the Counterfeit News Network at it again....

The front page of CNN.COM is basically 90% about Trump. You could call it almost TNN (Trump News network) now. In a way Trump is the best thing they ever happened to them in terms of user engagement.

Fox News is the same, they just take the other side.

Absolutely agree
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Charlie on October 03, 2020, 11:27:14 PM
"Trump hosted a big party last Saturday to celebrate his supreme court pick. Someone should remind him that there is a nasty virus going around...

Social distancing? Nope. Masks? Nope (no, having a mask in your pocket does not count). Hand shaking and fist pumping? Yup. Hugs? Yup. All people tested before the event? Nope. Virus present? Yup.

Result? The best example to date of this President’s utter incompetence. And the incompetence of the people around him (all ‘yes-men’, which, i know, had nothing to do with this epic fail). He not only exposes himself, he exposes members of his family, the US political and military leadership. How many people did he infect? The list reads like a who’s who of the Republican leadership in the US. Holy shit batman. Really?

Reading about Trumps party is like reading about that stupid young kid who throws a big shaker for 150 of his closest friends that becomes a super-spreader event. Idiotic. Irresponsible. But as Forest Gump famously said ‘stupid is as stupid does.’

Inside one celebration that helped spread the virus across the US government
- https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/03/politics/trump-covid-amy-coney-barrett-event/index.html"


It´s really the highlight of Trump´s successful Corona management.

An ounce of prevention is still worth a pound of cure.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 04, 2020, 06:21:14 AM
An ounce of prevention is still worth a pound of cure.

I prefer this quote:

"I don't wear face masks like him...Every time you see him he's got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet away ... and he shows up with the biggest mask I've ever seen."

--Some guy who tested positive 48 hrs later
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Spekulatius on October 04, 2020, 07:32:21 AM
It is what it is. I hope everyone involved comes out OK at the other side. Trump is going to eat crow for creating a superspreader event at the White House for nothing but vanity.

There are good treatment options  (at least if you are in his position ) like Remdesivir and the MAB from Regeneron and we are apparently past the Voodoo stage of using HCQ now so thy helps.
There might have been fatalities if this had occurred in March or April, so in a way the involved are lucky that it happened now and not earlier. Hopefully the scare will convince more people to wear masks and take the vaccine, once it becomes available, because I don’t think the presidents treatment options are available to anyone until much later.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 04, 2020, 07:57:46 AM
It is what it is. I hope everyone involved comes out OK at the other side. Trump is going to eat crow for creating a superspreader event at the White House for nothing but vanity.

I wouldn't give that much credit to the electorate. If anything, there may be a rally around Trump even though his infection was self inflicted because of sympathy. Furthermore, many folks have and will continue to excuse his actions from the consequences time and time again.

So what if the many people who caught it don't have access to the same healthcare as him? Especially those who died when many of these treatments didn't even exist?

People don't think like that. This may very well boost his odds.

4 more years?
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: rb on October 04, 2020, 11:02:20 AM
It is what it is. I hope everyone involved comes out OK at the other side. Trump is going to eat crow for creating a superspreader event at the White House for nothing but vanity.

I wouldn't give that much credit to the electorate. If anything, there may be a rally around Trump even though his infection was self inflicted because of sympathy. Furthermore, many folks have and will continue to excuse his actions from the consequences time and time again.

So what if the many people who caught it don't have access to the same healthcare as him? Especially those who died when many of these treatments didn't even exist?

People don't think like that. This may very well boost his odds.

4 more years?
I don't know about that. The NBC/WSJ (post debate) poll came out and it has a 21 point swing for Biden among seniors. It's still pre covid but it's sure starting to look like the sympathy cupboard is bare.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: rb on October 04, 2020, 11:09:44 AM
Oh, here's Reuters/Ipsos post COVID: Biden +10

Quote
Most Americans continue to be deeply worried about the virus, and the poll found that 65%, including 9 in 10 registered Democrats and 5 in 10 registered Republicans, agreed that “if President Trump had taken coronavirus more seriously, he probably would not have been infected.”

Only 34% said they thought that Trump has been telling them the truth about the coronavirus, while 55% said that he was not and 11% were unsure.

Those sympathy cupboards keep looking bare.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 04, 2020, 07:24:43 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjhJxmXXYAM-rSB?format=jpg&name=small)

Too bad for the secret service/those packed in the car with the covid infected patient.

Sacrifices made for the sake of a PR stunt. Hope they'll have the same level of healthcare if they get sick. A metaphor for America...

All part of a sociopath's calculus. His enablers allow him to live a truly consequence free life--must be fantastic.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: adesigar on October 04, 2020, 07:43:15 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjhJxmXXYAM-rSB?format=jpg&name=small)

Too bad for the secret service/those packed in the car with the covid infected patient.

Sacrifices made for the sake of a PR stunt. Hope they'll have the same level of healthcare if they get sick. A metaphor for America...

All part of a sociopath's calculus. His enablers allow him to live a truly consequence free life--must be fantastic.

Pretty sure he has secret service with him at all times anyways. Also doctors, nurses etc and other government officials. I don’t think this is exposing more people to COVID-19.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: LC on October 04, 2020, 08:12:03 PM
When will the "human life begins at fertilization" crowd (including his newest supreme court nominee) start condemning Trump for using embryonic stem cells to treat his COVID?

Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: arcube on October 05, 2020, 10:17:51 AM
Someone really summed it up.
https://the.ink/p/the-illness-he-is

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjhJxmXXYAM-rSB?format=jpg&name=small)

Too bad for the secret service/those packed in the car with the covid infected patient.

Sacrifices made for the sake of a PR stunt. Hope they'll have the same level of healthcare if they get sick. A metaphor for America...

All part of a sociopath's calculus. His enablers allow him to live a truly consequence free life--must be fantastic.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 05, 2020, 10:23:30 AM
Another scumbag journalist who dislikes Trump, this one from MSNBC....yawn.

Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: arcube on October 05, 2020, 10:26:42 AM
Great summary. For some reason the article must have felt very personal to you. I can see the hate in your one liner.

Another scumbag journalist who dislikes Trump, this one from MSNBC....yawn.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 05, 2020, 10:37:29 AM
Great summary. For some reason the article must have felt very personal to you. I can see the hate in your one liner.

Another scumbag journalist who dislikes Trump, this one from MSNBC....yawn.

LOL whatever you say.

Another expert who is oblivious to what things like depreciation and 1031s can do for a tax return, but that is nothing new. Otherwise its more of the same crybaby whining we've come to expect. Thanks so much for sharing.

Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: arcube on October 05, 2020, 10:44:50 AM
I am waiting for the day the entire population truly understands "depreciation and 1031s " and Cayman LLCs. That will be a great day when you can write off your dog shit expenses and everyone does it and the entire country get bankrupted....then only can people learn.

No need to get technical here on the accounting terms, you don't think there is a pattern here with someone bragging about his business acumen and then has nothing to show for it...are you ok with this?

Great summary. For some reason the article must have felt very personal to you. I can see the hate in your one liner.

Another scumbag journalist who dislikes Trump, this one from MSNBC....yawn.

LOL whatever you say.

Another expert who is oblivious to what things like depreciation and 1031s can do for a tax return, but that is nothing new. Otherwise its more of the same crybaby whining we've come to expect. Thanks so much for sharing.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Value^2 on October 05, 2020, 10:45:47 AM
It's clear that his base loves him more than ever, and I'd have thought that getting covid is going to broaden his base, but I'm not so sure about that.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 05, 2020, 10:53:54 AM
I am waiting for the day the entire population truly understands "depreciation and 1031s " and Cayman LLCs. That will be a great day when you can write off your dog shit expenses and everyone does it and the entire country get bankrupted....then only can people learn.

No need to get technical here on the accounting terms, you don't think there is a pattern here with someone bragging about his business acumen and then has nothing to show for it...are you ok with this?

Great summary. For some reason the article must have felt very personal to you. I can see the hate in your one liner.

Another scumbag journalist who dislikes Trump, this one from MSNBC....yawn.

LOL whatever you say.

Another expert who is oblivious to what things like depreciation and 1031s can do for a tax return, but that is nothing new. Otherwise its more of the same crybaby whining we've come to expect. Thanks so much for sharing.

You again completely seem to misunderstand the ramifications of the accounting, especially as it relates to real estate.

Something like this may help you along, granted its not written by some loser CNN analyst and contains little opinion...

https://therealdeal.com/2020/06/24/trump-could-face-massive-tax-bill-with-proposed-sale-of-office-towers/
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Dalal.Holdings on October 05, 2020, 10:57:17 AM
I am waiting for the day the entire population truly understands "depreciation and 1031s " and Cayman LLCs. That will be a great day when you can write off your dog shit expenses and everyone does it and the entire country get bankrupted....then only can people learn.

No need to get technical here on the accounting terms, you don't think there is a pattern here with someone bragging about his business acumen and then has nothing to show for it...are you ok with this?

Great summary. For some reason the article must have felt very personal to you. I can see the hate in your one liner.

Another scumbag journalist who dislikes Trump, this one from MSNBC....yawn.

LOL whatever you say.

Another expert who is oblivious to what things like depreciation and 1031s can do for a tax return, but that is nothing new. Otherwise its more of the same crybaby whining we've come to expect. Thanks so much for sharing.

Don’t forget—hire your daughter as a consultant on one of your properties—expense that to reduce your tax burden and bypass any inheritance taxes as well! Win-win!

Glad to see he is getting all the healthcare that $750 can buy!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Viking on October 05, 2020, 11:42:53 AM
It's clear that his base loves him more than ever, and I'd have thought that getting covid is going to broaden his base, but I'm not so sure about that.

I think you have hit the nail on its head. It looks like Trump needs to find a way to broaden his base to win the election. He has lost support in important demographic groups that supported him in 2016. And uneducated white males are a shrinking demographic (as a % of the US population). It appears the President disagrees. Perhaps he is waiting for Biden to mess up. We will find out who had the right strategy in 28 days.

It appears Biden has gotten a small bump coming out of the first debate. We will see how Trump getting the virus plays out over the next week or two. Calm before the storm?

The other factor is ‘tail risk’. You can bet both parties have a few more tricks (some no doubt dirty) up their sleeves before people go to the polls. So nothing will surprise me in the next 28 days (or post election). Bar brawls are what they are.

—————————-
Polls show no signs of a sympathy bounce, and find most Americans don’t think Trump took the virus seriously.
- https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/05/us/trump-vs-biden?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#polls-show-no-signs-of-a-sympathy-bounce-and-find-most-americans-dont-think-trump-took-the-virus-seriously

The Trump campaign is hoping the nation will rally around the ailing president as he battles the coronavirus. But the first polls conducted since the president’s announcement of his diagnosis early Friday did not seem to show a sympathy bounce.

Polls by Ipsos/Reuters and YouGov/Yahoo conducted on Friday and Saturday found that most Americans feel the president hadn’t been taking the coronavirus seriously, in terms of policy or personal conduct, and that he could have avoided getting sick.

Both polls also showed Joseph R. Biden Jr. maintain his national lead over Mr. Trump. The Ipsos/Reuters poll showed Mr. Biden up by 10 percentage points — one point higher than in its last several national polls, including one from after last Tuesday’s first presidential debate.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 05, 2020, 02:29:43 PM
So are Trump supporters really trying to justify the very stable genius’s not paying taxes for the last 15 years or so, as being due to depreciation? I would guess if you combine depreciation with all the losses from his bankruptcies and failed businesses it is not much wonder he hasn’t paid taxes. And by the way, depreciation ain’t free, there is such a thing as recapture. But anything to deflect from Trump’s other mounting problems, right. Real men don’t wear masks and social distance, right? How’s that Covid Hoax working out in the White House these days?
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 05, 2020, 02:57:36 PM
oh boy.

1) Its The NY Times; them and their employees are septic scum. There is a clear bias, go check out what % of their stories are gossip about Trump. There is a reason every liberal always cites NYT. You are not only assuming they are credible, but that their report on his taxes is accurate.

2) I care as much about Trumps taxes as I do yours....zero.

3) Depreciation on several billion dollars in RE is not immaterial. Losses on golf courses also arent either. I assume you are again unaware that there are certain assets favorable to HNW folks due to pass through of operating losses. O&G vehicles with the purpose of shielding or offsetting income are very popular in fact. It is very feasible to also be holding significant income at the corporate level.

4) People who dont understand a subject commenting on it is hilarious and also immediately invalidates everything else they have to say.


You and many of your friends have repeatedly combined 1&4 and seem oblivious to 3. And care about 2.

I'd also point out that the covid hoax at the WH so far resembles the flu. Outside of course, of all the hysteria. Certainly Trump, with all his super high risk problems should be dead by now. So should about half the senators. LOL meanwhile De Blasio is back to trying to shut down NY.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: RadMan24 on October 05, 2020, 03:00:42 PM
So are Trump supporters really trying to justify the very stable genius’s not paying taxes for the last 15 years or so as being due to depreciation? I would guess if you combine depreciation with all the losses from his bankruptcies and failed businesses it is not much wonder he hasn’t paid taxes. And by the way, depreciation ain’t free, there is such a thing as recapture. But anything to deflect from Trump’s other mounting problems, right. Real men don’t wear masks and social distance, right? How’s that Covid Hoax working out in the White House these days?

FYI, this is a twisted sense of reality.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: LC on October 05, 2020, 03:02:16 PM
What losses on golf courses?

Operating losses from his inflated related party transactions?

Or valuation losses from using two “sets of books” so to speak?
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Parsad on October 05, 2020, 03:35:32 PM
oh boy.

1) Its The NY Times; them and their employees are septic scum. There is a clear bias, go check out what % of their stories are gossip about Trump. There is a reason every liberal always cites NYT. You are not only assuming they are credible, but that their report on his taxes is accurate.

2) I care as much about Trumps taxes as I do yours....zero.

3) Depreciation on several billion dollars in RE is not immaterial. Losses on golf courses also arent either. I assume you are again unaware that there are certain assets favorable to HNW folks due to pass through of operating losses. O&G vehicles with the purpose of shielding or offsetting income are very popular in fact. It is very feasible to also be holding significant income at the corporate level.

4) People who dont understand a subject commenting on it is hilarious and also immediately invalidates everything else they have to say.


You and many of your friends have repeatedly combined 1&4 and seem oblivious to 3. And care about 2.

I'd also point out that the covid hoax at the WH so far resembles the flu. Outside of course, of all the hysteria. Certainly Trump, with all his super high risk problems should be dead by now. So should about half the senators. LOL meanwhile De Blasio is back to trying to shut down NY.

Greg, I don't really care about Trump's tax losses, as many rich people take advantage of those loopholes and reduce their tax burden.  But c'mon man, at some point in time, you have to just clench the old butt cheeks and admit that Trump doesn't just exaggerate his success and wealth...but that he completely lies like Bernie Madoff or some other ponzi operator.  And granted you have your issues with the left, and yeah, many of them are just as bad as Trump, but he's the President...not just some minor token position, but POTUS!  But if you can't admit that, so be it.  You're hardcore ride and die with this numbnuts!  Cheers!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Mephistopheles on October 05, 2020, 03:41:21 PM
The bigger issue is not how much he paid in taxes but the sources of debt and also his business interests. All that stuff about incentives that Munger talks about is relavent here. But that doesn't matter to his supporters does it?
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Spekulatius on October 05, 2020, 03:56:12 PM
oh boy.

I'd also point out that the covid hoax at the WH so far resembles the flu. Outside of course, of all the hysteria. Certainly Trump, with all his super high risk problems should be dead by now. So should about half the senators. LOL meanwhile De Blasio is back to trying to shut down NY.

Interesting comment from someone who was concerned enough after the news of Trump being flown to Bethesda Hospital came out to buy SQQQ after hours last  Friday. A busted trade it seems.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 05, 2020, 04:11:44 PM
oh boy.

I'd also point out that the covid hoax at the WH so far resembles the flu. Outside of course, of all the hysteria. Certainly Trump, with all his super high risk problems should be dead by now. So should about half the senators. LOL meanwhile De Blasio is back to trying to shut down NY.

Interesting comment from someone who was concerned enough after the news of Trump being flown to Bethesda Hospital came out to buy SQQQ after hours last  Friday. A busted trade it seems.

Not really. Ive explained a number of times I am almost always hedged in one way or another. Especially when using margin frequently. We can all have opinions but if you can make money both ways, why wouldn't you? It seems to often be forgotten or context removed when convenient though. Better than going "all cash" while waiting out a liquidity event that never happens.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 05, 2020, 04:15:52 PM
oh boy.

1) Its The NY Times; them and their employees are septic scum. There is a clear bias, go check out what % of their stories are gossip about Trump. There is a reason every liberal always cites NYT. You are not only assuming they are credible, but that their report on his taxes is accurate.

2) I care as much about Trumps taxes as I do yours....zero.

3) Depreciation on several billion dollars in RE is not immaterial. Losses on golf courses also arent either. I assume you are again unaware that there are certain assets favorable to HNW folks due to pass through of operating losses. O&G vehicles with the purpose of shielding or offsetting income are very popular in fact. It is very feasible to also be holding significant income at the corporate level.

4) People who dont understand a subject commenting on it is hilarious and also immediately invalidates everything else they have to say.


You and many of your friends have repeatedly combined 1&4 and seem oblivious to 3. And care about 2.

I'd also point out that the covid hoax at the WH so far resembles the flu. Outside of course, of all the hysteria. Certainly Trump, with all his super high risk problems should be dead by now. So should about half the senators. LOL meanwhile De Blasio is back to trying to shut down NY.

Greg, I don't really care about Trump's tax losses, as many rich people take advantage of those loopholes and reduce their tax burden.  But c'mon man, at some point in time, you have to just clench the old butt cheeks and admit that Trump doesn't just exaggerate his success and wealth...but that he completely lies like Bernie Madoff or some other ponzi operator.  And granted you have your issues with the left, and yeah, many of them are just as bad as Trump, but he's the President...not just some minor token position, but POTUS!  But if you can't admit that, so be it.  You're hardcore ride and die with this numbnuts!  Cheers!

Thats fine. It really just comes down to policy. You've got so called conservatives here supporting a candidate who wants to raise taxes, increase the size and power of the government, expand the SC, and in one of the better parts of the debate, that not surprisingly no one has mentioned, despite claiming to have endorsements from law enforcement, couldn't name one and has placated a large portion of his base with hopes of reducing law enforcement. Very conservative indeed!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 05, 2020, 04:32:40 PM
oh boy.

1) Its The NY Times; them and their employees are septic scum. There is a clear bias, go check out what % of their stories are gossip about Trump. There is a reason every liberal always cites NYT. You are not only assuming they are credible, but that their report on his taxes is accurate.

2) I care as much about Trumps taxes as I do yours....zero.

3) Depreciation on several billion dollars in RE is not immaterial. Losses on golf courses also arent either. I assume you are again unaware that there are certain assets favorable to HNW folks due to pass through of operating losses. O&G vehicles with the purpose of shielding or offsetting income are very popular in fact. It is very feasible to also be holding significant income at the corporate level.

4) People who dont understand a subject commenting on it is hilarious and also immediately invalidates everything else they have to say.


You and many of your friends have repeatedly combined 1&4 and seem oblivious to 3. And care about 2.

I'd also point out that the covid hoax at the WH so far resembles the flu. Outside of course, of all the hysteria. Certainly Trump, with all his super high risk problems should be dead by now. So should about half the senators. LOL meanwhile De Blasio is back to trying to shut down NY.

I am no US tax expert by any means. But I do know that if one continues to depreciate a property and also repeatedly remortgages said property, one can reach a point where the liabilities against that property can exceed the property’s value due to mortgage and recapture taxes.

And if you don’t care if it appears that your president is either a tax cheat or a failed businessman, that says a lot about how high you set the bar for your selection of a president.

And, if you think for a minute that just because the president hasn’t (yet?) suffered serious ramifications from Covid somehow shows that Covvid is no big deal, then you are delusional. Do you think the average person has access to experimental drugs? Do you think Joe Plumber has access to some of the world’s best doctors and medical facilities? The arrogance is incredible.

You have been suggesting that Covid-19 is little worse than the flu since last February.

Remember when you said something to the effect that you would be worried about Covid if you could count the number of people with the virus on one hand?  Well Since then 210,000 Americans have died of that flu.   
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 05, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
LOL thats like the 8th time you brought up each of your talking points and snippets. For the 8th time I'll answer.

You dont know about accounting/US tax but comment on it anyway...OK then.

No, I dont care about politicians in any regard other than what policies they will push and how it will effect my life.

Yes, you are correct, no president has ever gotten better medical access than Joe the Plumber.... And weren't you guys out of the other end of your mouth bashing "experimental" treatments because you dont trust Trump?

I have been suggesting that about Covid and it continues to be more or more clearly the case. The biggest damage was done in shitbox liberal cities where people had no clue what they were doing. NY/NJ/MA still stand alone in terms of death rate, and alone still account for nearly a quarter of Covid deaths despite collectively having about the same number of covid cases as Florida. They have 3x as many deaths as Texas despite combining to have roughly the same population. Its really funny how on and on you guys go about covid and the US and its your own cities and politicians leading the way.

Yes, I said when covid got more serious I would reevaluate my position. I did. And Ive done well with my approach. Congrats you can count deaths. It great that you deem it essential to remind us that you can count deaths every 2 weeks on your political rants. I look forward to more.

Quite a bunch of people made fools out of themselves with their investments and covid delusion back in March. It was certainly fun. Maybe you guys can whip up another frenzy and we can do it again?

Id also add, that regardless of left/right blame for the virus, people knew in January and February it was a health concern. Its on you to take precautions. If you need the government to tell you what to do you are a loser and maybe America and all its "freedom" isn't for you.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 05, 2020, 05:04:57 PM
Okay. I get it. You are only concerned about yourself. No problem and I can understand why you support trump. Birds of a father ...
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 05, 2020, 05:07:28 PM
Okay. I get it. You are only concerned about yourself. No problem and I can understand why you support trump. Birds of a father ...

LOL let me know when(time and date) you put the well being of complete and total strangers above that of you and your friends/family.....Ill make a trophy for you.

All the fake concern is greatly amusing.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 05, 2020, 05:14:38 PM
That's okay, I understand where you are coming from now.
And actually I do have empathy for others, even complete strangers.
But I can understand how you don't and why you have little concern for Covid victims or others.
Each to his own I guess.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 05, 2020, 05:35:20 PM
I mean at current pace I'm on track to be completely financially independent by mid 30's, family has everything it needs, never had a boss in my life or relied on someone else for a paycheck(not counting bs high school and college jobs that paid the bar tab), Rolodex includes contacts that you probably wouldn't believe, a track record with people I do business with that would be the envy of anyone, and literally just had the highest "quality of life" summer of my life during the "pandemic". Entirely self made, not even a small loan from daddy. So yea, I'll stick with what works for me. You do you. As you said, to each their own. Different approaches get different results.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Buckeye on October 05, 2020, 07:08:55 PM
I mean at current pace I'm on track to be completely financially independent by mid 30's, family has everything it needs, never had a boss in my life or relied on someone else for a paycheck(not counting bs high school and college jobs that paid the bar tab), Rolodex includes contacts that you probably wouldn't believe, a track record with people I do business with that would be the envy of anyone, and literally just had the highest "quality of life" summer of my life during the "pandemic". Entirely self made, not even a small loan from daddy. So yea, I'll stick with what works for me. You do you. As you said, to each their own. Different approaches get different results.

Gregmal, what type of business do you own?
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 05, 2020, 07:49:16 PM
I used to own an investment management/advisory business which I monetized and now work on a contractor/consultancy basis managing funds for a few dozen HNW investors who have been long tenured investors/clients of mine as I shift towards managing my own money.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Cardboard on October 05, 2020, 08:15:05 PM
It is indeed interesting to constantly read these negative comments from Cwericb or a so-called hardcore Conservative member and actively involved with the Party. LOL!

Then state out here a few negative comments, I mean real ones, around Trudeau and Obama's policies without mentioning Trump in the same sentences then I will let you complain, bitch and moan all day long about Trump afterwards.

However, I won't hold my breath as you will likely come up with some excuse not do so.

Cardboard
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Parsad on October 05, 2020, 10:26:12 PM
oh boy.

1) Its The NY Times; them and their employees are septic scum. There is a clear bias, go check out what % of their stories are gossip about Trump. There is a reason every liberal always cites NYT. You are not only assuming they are credible, but that their report on his taxes is accurate.

2) I care as much about Trumps taxes as I do yours....zero.

3) Depreciation on several billion dollars in RE is not immaterial. Losses on golf courses also arent either. I assume you are again unaware that there are certain assets favorable to HNW folks due to pass through of operating losses. O&G vehicles with the purpose of shielding or offsetting income are very popular in fact. It is very feasible to also be holding significant income at the corporate level.

4) People who dont understand a subject commenting on it is hilarious and also immediately invalidates everything else they have to say.


You and many of your friends have repeatedly combined 1&4 and seem oblivious to 3. And care about 2.

I'd also point out that the covid hoax at the WH so far resembles the flu. Outside of course, of all the hysteria. Certainly Trump, with all his super high risk problems should be dead by now. So should about half the senators. LOL meanwhile De Blasio is back to trying to shut down NY.

Greg, I don't really care about Trump's tax losses, as many rich people take advantage of those loopholes and reduce their tax burden.  But c'mon man, at some point in time, you have to just clench the old butt cheeks and admit that Trump doesn't just exaggerate his success and wealth...but that he completely lies like Bernie Madoff or some other ponzi operator.  And granted you have your issues with the left, and yeah, many of them are just as bad as Trump, but he's the President...not just some minor token position, but POTUS!  But if you can't admit that, so be it.  You're hardcore ride and die with this numbnuts!  Cheers!

Thats fine. It really just comes down to policy. You've got so called conservatives here supporting a candidate who wants to raise taxes, increase the size and power of the government, expand the SC, and in one of the better parts of the debate, that not surprisingly no one has mentioned, despite claiming to have endorsements from law enforcement, couldn't name one and has placated a large portion of his base with hopes of reducing law enforcement. Very conservative indeed!

Yeah, but that's like when Trump says he has plenty of black votes or loves the Mexicans...outside of Ben Carson, Kanye and Ted Cruz, he can't name any either!  I'm not a fan of Biden as POTUS, but you've got to admit that the current POTUS is a lying, hypocrite who grew up with a silver spoon, and plans on making sure his heirs all have them too!  Cheers!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Castanza on October 06, 2020, 05:45:52 AM
oh boy.

1) Its The NY Times; them and their employees are septic scum. There is a clear bias, go check out what % of their stories are gossip about Trump. There is a reason every liberal always cites NYT. You are not only assuming they are credible, but that their report on his taxes is accurate.

2) I care as much about Trumps taxes as I do yours....zero.

3) Depreciation on several billion dollars in RE is not immaterial. Losses on golf courses also arent either. I assume you are again unaware that there are certain assets favorable to HNW folks due to pass through of operating losses. O&G vehicles with the purpose of shielding or offsetting income are very popular in fact. It is very feasible to also be holding significant income at the corporate level.

4) People who dont understand a subject commenting on it is hilarious and also immediately invalidates everything else they have to say.


You and many of your friends have repeatedly combined 1&4 and seem oblivious to 3. And care about 2.

I'd also point out that the covid hoax at the WH so far resembles the flu. Outside of course, of all the hysteria. Certainly Trump, with all his super high risk problems should be dead by now. So should about half the senators. LOL meanwhile De Blasio is back to trying to shut down NY.

Greg, I don't really care about Trump's tax losses, as many rich people take advantage of those loopholes and reduce their tax burden.  But c'mon man, at some point in time, you have to just clench the old butt cheeks and admit that Trump doesn't just exaggerate his success and wealth...but that he completely lies like Bernie Madoff or some other ponzi operator.  And granted you have your issues with the left, and yeah, many of them are just as bad as Trump, but he's the President...not just some minor token position, but POTUS!  But if you can't admit that, so be it.  You're hardcore ride and die with this numbnuts!  Cheers!

Thats fine. It really just comes down to policy. You've got so called conservatives here supporting a candidate who wants to raise taxes, increase the size and power of the government, expand the SC, and in one of the better parts of the debate, that not surprisingly no one has mentioned, despite claiming to have endorsements from law enforcement, couldn't name one and has placated a large portion of his base with hopes of reducing law enforcement. Very conservative indeed!

Yeah, but that's like when Trump says he has plenty of black votes or loves the Mexicans...outside of Ben Carson, Kanye and Ted Cruz, he can't name any either!  I'm not a fan of Biden as POTUS, but you've got to admit that the current POTUS is a lying, hypocrite who grew up with a silver spoon, and plans on making sure his heirs all have them too!  Cheers!

Respectfully, Biden has 40+ years of blatant hypocrisy, racist policies, racist quotes, and downright innapropriate behavior with women and children. Biden's latest racist quote: "The only reason I'm able to stay home during this pandemic is because black women have been keeping the grocery store shelves stocked."

Trump is a POS, but he spent the majority of his time being a POS human as a democrat  ;D I'm going to take a page from the democratic playbook and say there was a "great switch". Trump has only just come over to the "good side"  :P jk jk
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 06, 2020, 05:47:38 AM
Greg, I congratulate you on your business success. I believe you previously mentioned that you owned a power boat - so you can’t be all bad :) . Like you, anything I have, I worked for.

Cardboard, I have read and respected your posts on this board and on the previous board for many years.

You are both obviously intelligent people.

What I don’t understand is the passion you both have to support a man who constantly and blatantly lies and treats his supporters as suckers. Meanwhile, he takes it for granted that his supporters will follow him no matter what outrageous things he does or says. One would think that Trump’s “5th Avenue” remark would be seen as the insult to his supporters that it was.

I could go on, but it would be a waste of time as it wouldn’t change your support for a man I see as having serious mental issues and who puts his own personal interests above his country’s.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 06, 2020, 06:20:59 AM
Look, for the most part, everything is drummed up when it comes to politics. Pick your ideal President, out of everyone you know of, and if its Joe Biden or Donald Trump you are probably lying. If its anyone else, they've literally got next to no chance. As Ive said before, I think we will be A-OK with Biden should he be President for the entire term and not let Koomala near the Oval Office.

Debating this shit is mostly just entertaining. The vast majority of what occurs with politics and Donald Trump really dont(or shouldn't) impact our lives. Even all the virus stuff; plenty of folks here, even those who did the basement thing, found a way to do what made them comfortable and took precautions. Theres always someone to blame but by blaming you are also implying a lack of power and personally Ive just always liked the idea of having control over my life. This past weekend for instance, we had family over and wanted to go to a long time favorite hibachi place. Indoor with the whole 9 in terms of restaurant risks. So instead, I called up, told the restaurant how many people, and asked if they could find us a 60 minute time window either Saturday or Sunday during whatever time worked for them, and if they closed the rest of the restaurant for that time window, I'd pay double via a 100% tip. $160 for food, $160 for peace of mind. Of course, we didnt have to go out and still may have faced risks, but everyone should have a say in how they live their lives, for better or worse. Whats the ripple effect on quality of life if everyone adopts a fear driven lifestyle?

As whacky as any president can get, we all should have the protection of the constitution which is guarded by the Supreme Court. Where it gets a little unnerving is when/where it seems the politicians(referring to both left and right) have found the one major constitutional hack....that you can bulldoze the constitution by executive orders, or by methodically screwing with the courts. If they continue doing this, specifically the executive orders, which is what almost all of the covid lockdowns and business shutdowns are predicated upon, we could be in trouble.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Buckeye on October 06, 2020, 09:12:45 AM
I used to own an investment management/advisory business which I monetized and now work on a contractor/consultancy basis managing funds for a few dozen HNW investors who have been long tenured investors/clients of mine as I shift towards managing my own money.

Thank you for your reply Gregmal, and congratulations on the success. Just don't let it go to your head ;)
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Value^2 on October 06, 2020, 10:49:37 AM
Biden is textbook example of career-politician. All they know is how to raise taxes and add more regulation. Trump knows how real world works and he has been doing god's work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhKA1uX2UmI
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 06, 2020, 12:41:06 PM
Biden is textbook example of career-politician. All they know is how to raise taxes and add more regulation. Trump knows how real world works and he has been doing god's work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhKA1uX2UmI

Not sure if you are serious, but the clip you reference shows H Clinton saying “We’re Going To Put A Lot Of Coal Miners And Coal Companies Out Of Business”

It would appear that despite his promises to rebuild the coal industry Trump has done even better than Clinton.  When Murray Energy filed for bankruptcy in October 2019, it became the eighth US coal producer to do so in the space of 12 months. Just quoting the facts.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: John Hjorth on October 08, 2020, 01:06:02 PM
At least, I know he makes money investing while with all your comments one has to wonder how bread gets to the table?

Cardboard

Ohh it’s been so hard for us since you wished me and my family contracted “the most virulent kind” of covid back in February. You clearly lead by example. Glad to have you back  :-X

This is soo much "under the belt" communication among CoBF members! There is no need, or even demand for it!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: orthopa on October 15, 2020, 07:23:52 AM
Uh oh. Covid in Kamala's inner circle now! How reckless.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 15, 2020, 07:32:36 AM
Uh oh. Covid in Kamala's inner circle now! How reckless.

This will be a FOX/NY Post exclusive. The rest will never hear of it! Hunter Biden is also rumored to have fathered a multi racial child with yet another class C stripper. Adding more diversity to the ticket! Facebook, Twitter and Google have a decision on their hands!
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Cardboard on October 15, 2020, 07:35:18 AM
Our resident buffoons certainly won't comment on it.

Same as Trudeau's wife getting it but, not our moron in chief?

Who is lying and hypocritical here?

Much rather have someone with a go-humanity attitude than all these control freaks wanting to control every aspect of our lives. Fuck em!

Cardboard
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: orthopa on October 15, 2020, 08:15:08 AM
Uh oh. Covid in Kamala's inner circle now! How reckless.

This will be a FOX/NY Post exclusive. The rest will never hear of it! Hunter Biden is also rumored to have fathered a multi racial child with yet another class C stripper. Adding more diversity to the ticket! Facebook, Twitter and Google have a decision on their hands!

My concern as an American voter is that if Biden/Kamala impose the same covid plan that they have been using in their inner circle we are all doomed.

Until proven otherwise recklessness and wearing your mask below your nose is being suspected.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 15, 2020, 08:44:35 AM

Much rather have someone with a go-humanity attitude than all these control freaks wanting to control every aspect of our lives. Fuck em!

Cardboard

Yup. Lets abolish all those dumb laws like not being able to drink and drive.
Its my own business if I want to drink and drive.
No government has the right to tell me what to do.
If I kill someone, well that's their own damn fault, they should have gotten out of my way. 
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: Gregmal on October 15, 2020, 08:47:48 AM

Much rather have someone with a go-humanity attitude than all these control freaks wanting to control every aspect of our lives. Fuck em!

Cardboard

Yup. Lets abolish all those dumb laws like not being able to drink and drive.
Its my own business if I want to drink and drive.
No government has the right to tell me what to do.
If I kill someone, well that's their own damn fault, they should have gotten out of my way.

I dont think outlawing drinking and driving prevents drinking and driving. Spending a significant portion of your life in prison for vehicular homicide does though.
Title: Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive For Covid-19
Post by: cwericb on October 15, 2020, 09:30:57 AM

Much rather have someone with a go-humanity attitude than all these control freaks wanting to control every aspect of our lives. Fuck em!

Cardboard

Yup. Lets abolish all those dumb laws like not being able to drink and drive.
Its my own business if I want to drink and drive.
No government has the right to tell me what to do.
If I kill someone, well that's their own damn fault, they should have gotten out of my way.

I dont think outlawing drinking and driving prevents drinking and driving. Spending a significant portion of your life in prison for vehicular homicide does though.

Certainly doesn’t stop it, but around here it helps and its taken pretty seriously.

FIRST OFFENCE:

$1500 fine,
Plus Mandatory jail time
Plus 30 day impound of vehicle
Plus One-year driving prohibition.
Plus Double or triple insurance rates - IF you can get it.
Plus Vehicle impound towing fee and storage fee — about $600
Plus Reinstatement of licence fee $750
Plus Minimum 1-year ignition interlock, installation and monthly operational fees — roughly $1,200 - $1,400.
Plus Mandatory rehabilitation programs.

Still a problem but the above does tend to be a deterrent.