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Parsad

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Re: Trump Called It!
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2020, 08:19:06 PM »
If "this" is it(which I am uncertain of), what exactly are all the bitches whining about? You basically traded low level economic damage and zero American or ally lives for the removal of one of the deadliest generals in one of the most dangerous Anti American regions...

Its really been eye opening of late. I dont exactly endorse assassinating foreign leaders, but the fact that liberals hate Trump so much that they are defending known terrorists is pretty alarming.

Well, actually 165 ally lives, because Flight 752 would not have been accidentally shot out of the sky by the Iranians.  So not really casualty free...165 civilians were killed.  Cheers!
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Re: Trump Called It!
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2020, 08:40:28 PM »
If "this" is it(which I am uncertain of), what exactly are all the bitches whining about? You basically traded low level economic damage and zero American or ally lives for the removal of one of the deadliest generals in one of the most dangerous Anti American regions...

Its really been eye opening of late. I dont exactly endorse assassinating foreign leaders, but the fact that liberals hate Trump so much that they are defending known terrorists is pretty alarming.

Well, actually 165 ally lives, because Flight 752 would not have been accidentally shot out of the sky by the Iranians.  So not really casualty free...165 civilians were killed.  Cheers!

have you heard of the concept, proximate cause?

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Re: Trump Called It!
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2020, 10:26:05 PM »
If "this" is it(which I am uncertain of), what exactly are all the bitches whining about? You basically traded low level economic damage and zero American or ally lives for the removal of one of the deadliest generals in one of the most dangerous Anti American regions...

Its really been eye opening of late. I dont exactly endorse assassinating foreign leaders, but the fact that liberals hate Trump so much that they are defending known terrorists is pretty alarming.

Well, actually 165 ally lives, because Flight 752 would not have been accidentally shot out of the sky by the Iranians.  So not really casualty free...165 civilians were killed.  Cheers!

have you heard of the concept, proximate cause?

Proximate cause would support what I'm saying...that the chain of events was initiated by the U.S....not sure what you are referring to?  Cheers!
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Re: Trump Called It!
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2020, 06:35:01 AM »
It's a long chain of events but certainly Iran has been the trigger, time and again.  They are the ones attacking the US military bases in Iraq.

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Re: Trump Called It!
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2020, 06:50:44 AM »
^The proximate cause argument is interesting.
"You started first"
"No, you started first"
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A potential proximate cause would be the Iranian Revolution but then you have to remember the CIA-led coup (against Mossadegh, 1953), or the post-WWII partition by western powers or even the Faustian bargain of 1744 or...
Potentially interesting link for those who want to stretch the domino effect:
https://www.econlib.org/archives/2017/08/four_decades_of.html

Disclosure: As a Canadian, I am grateful for the blanket of security provided by the US and, even if its presence in the ME can be criticized, the region has been mired in an institutional mess and the area remains critical for its natural resources. It's a very tough situation and the strategy has been, it seems, to apply markers around controlled chaos.


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Re: Trump Called It!
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2020, 09:12:59 AM »
If "this" is it(which I am uncertain of), what exactly are all the bitches whining about? You basically traded low level economic damage and zero American or ally lives for the removal of one of the deadliest generals in one of the most dangerous Anti American regions...

Its really been eye opening of late. I dont exactly endorse assassinating foreign leaders, but the fact that liberals hate Trump so much that they are defending known terrorists is pretty alarming.

Well, actually 165 ally lives, because Flight 752 would not have been accidentally shot out of the sky by the Iranians.  So not really casualty free...165 civilians were killed.  Cheers!

have you heard of the concept, proximate cause?

Proximate cause would support what I'm saying...that the chain of events was initiated by the U.S....not sure what you are referring to?  Cheers!

not the way US courts interpret it.....not reasonably foreseeable that Iran would shoot down a commercial airline leaving from its own airport days after a targeted killing in another country
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Re: Trump Called It!
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2020, 09:13:48 AM »
^The proximate cause argument is interesting.
"You started first"
"No, you started first"
...
A potential proximate cause would be the Iranian Revolution but then you have to remember the CIA-led coup (against Mossadegh, 1953), or the post-WWII partition by western powers or even the Faustian bargain of 1744 or...
Potentially interesting link for those who want to stretch the domino effect:
https://www.econlib.org/archives/2017/08/four_decades_of.html

Disclosure: As a Canadian, I am grateful for the blanket of security provided by the US and, even if its presence in the ME can be criticized, the region has been mired in an institutional mess and the area remains critical for its natural resources. It's a very tough situation and the strategy has been, it seems, to apply markers around controlled chaos.

proximate cause was Eve biting the apple..... ::)

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Re: Trump Called It!
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2020, 09:23:21 AM »
If "this" is it(which I am uncertain of), what exactly are all the bitches whining about? You basically traded low level economic damage and zero American or ally lives for the removal of one of the deadliest generals in one of the most dangerous Anti American regions...

Its really been eye opening of late. I dont exactly endorse assassinating foreign leaders, but the fact that liberals hate Trump so much that they are defending known terrorists is pretty alarming.

Well, actually 165 ally lives, because Flight 752 would not have been accidentally shot out of the sky by the Iranians.  So not really casualty free...165 civilians were killed.  Cheers!

https://twitter.com/RichLowry/status/1215387474492567554?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Re: Trump Called It!
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2020, 10:08:07 AM »
Proximate cause would support what I'm saying...that the chain of events was initiated by the U.S....not sure what you are referring to?  Cheers!

not the way US courts interpret it.....not reasonably foreseeable that Iran would shoot down a commercial airline leaving from its own airport days after a targeted killing in another country

The left doesn't care about the law, unless it suits them.

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Re: Trump Called It!
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2020, 10:33:07 AM »
If "this" is it(which I am uncertain of), what exactly are all the bitches whining about? You basically traded low level economic damage and zero American or ally lives for the removal of one of the deadliest generals in one of the most dangerous Anti American regions...

Its really been eye opening of late. I dont exactly endorse assassinating foreign leaders, but the fact that liberals hate Trump so much that they are defending known terrorists is pretty alarming.

Well, actually 165 ally lives, because Flight 752 would not have been accidentally shot out of the sky by the Iranians.  So not really casualty free...165 civilians were killed.  Cheers!

https://twitter.com/RichLowry/status/1215387474492567554?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

That tweet is priceless!