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Re: US Federal Election - Florida
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2020, 08:08:08 AM »
What happened in Antrim County needs to be explained. If I was American I would be FURIOUS.  Think about what happened there.  Thus machine spits out county level summary numbers and that's that.  They only noticed because the discrepancy was so large. This implies there is no validation mechanism.   You cannot trust any of the numbers unless they are hand counted with representative from both parties.

Please don't go around insisting nothing is wrong. Cubsfan is right, its like dealing with the  mob.  People, not just parsad, are insisting we can't even question the results.  Imagine if someone's kid got abused by a teacher, you found out and are then told you can't question or get warrants  to see if any other teachers are involved because it would compromise the reputation of the school system.  Excuse me?

Keep fighting guys.  Don't give way to conspiracy but insist on a proper non machine count.
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Re: US Federal Election - Florida
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2020, 10:05:03 AM »
What happened in Antrim County needs to be explained. If I was American I would be FURIOUS.  Think about what happened there.  Thus machine spits out county level summary numbers and that's that.  They only noticed because the discrepancy was so large. This implies there is no validation mechanism.   You cannot trust any of the numbers unless they are hand counted with representative from both parties.

Please don't go around insisting nothing is wrong. Cubsfan is right, its like dealing with the  mob.  People, not just parsad, are insisting we can't even question the results.  Imagine if someone's kid got abused by a teacher, you found out and are then told you can't question or get warrants  to see if any other teachers are involved because it would compromise the reputation of the school system.  Excuse me?

Keep fighting guys.  Don't give way to conspiracy but insist on a proper non machine count.

You've essentially had four years of kids being abused by a teacher...that's why Trump had to go!  And your conspiracy theories are bunk!  Just like Trump's inflated numbers around almost everything he talked about.  And you won't see Hunter Biden sitting next to Joe Biden in the Oval Office!  Cheers!
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Re: US Federal Election - Florida
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2020, 12:15:13 PM »
I will remind you Parsad, I am laying out an argument with facts and links.  You are free to challenge those facts.  All you are doing is trying to sweep this under the rug.  Calling facts a "conspiracy theory" is an attempt at censorship.

Here is another "glitch".

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The counties use voting machines made by Dominion Voting Systems and electronic poll books — used to sign in voters — made by KnowInk.

The companies “uploaded something last night, which is not normal, and it caused a glitch,” said Marcia Ridley, elections supervisor at Spalding County Board of Election. That glitch prevented pollworkers from using the pollbooks to program smart cards that the voters insert into the voting machines.

Ridley said that a representative from the two companies called her after poll workers began having problems with the equipment Tuesday morning and said the problem was due to an upload to the machines by one of their technicians overnight.

“That is something that they don’t ever do. I’ve never seen them update anything the day before the election,” Ridley said. Ridley said she did not know what the upload contained.


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/georgia-election-machine-glitch-434065


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Re: US Federal Election - Florida
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2020, 12:31:51 PM »
I will remind you Parsad, I am laying out an argument with facts and links.  You are free to challenge those facts.  All you are doing is trying to sweep this under the rug.  Calling facts a "conspiracy theory" is an attempt at censorship.

Here is another "glitch".

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The counties use voting machines made by Dominion Voting Systems and electronic poll books — used to sign in voters — made by KnowInk.

The companies “uploaded something last night, which is not normal, and it caused a glitch,” said Marcia Ridley, elections supervisor at Spalding County Board of Election. That glitch prevented pollworkers from using the pollbooks to program smart cards that the voters insert into the voting machines.

Ridley said that a representative from the two companies called her after poll workers began having problems with the equipment Tuesday morning and said the problem was due to an upload to the machines by one of their technicians overnight.

“That is something that they don’t ever do. I’ve never seen them update anything the day before the election,” Ridley said. Ridley said she did not know what the upload contained.


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/georgia-election-machine-glitch-434065


We accept politico links around here right?  or is this far-right hate speech?

I think you are confusing accusations with facts. You might wait for the accusations to be investigated and proven before using them as facts and evidence of wrongdoing.
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Re: US Federal Election - Florida
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2020, 08:17:34 PM »
When you look at the stats the Michigan 2020 election results look very unusual in certain counties in comparison to the early voting numbers.   It all comes down to mail-in statistics and their predictive ability of the Democratic numbers. 

For reference mail -in stats on a county by county basis are available here: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/MI.html.   
You also have final results on a county by county basis here: https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/michigan/

As we all know, main-in voters have a high tendency to vote Biden.   This is not just speculation, if you take the ratio of mail-in votes relative to registered voters for a county it provides a rough estimate of how the democrats will do.   I urge you to try it yourself using the above links.

These are the results for the first few counties :

Alcona: 33% mail-in requested, 30% biden votes.

Alger: 31.5% mail-in requested, 40% biden votes.

Allergan: 36.7% mail-in requested, 36.5% biden votes.

Alpena: 33.2% mail-in requested, 35.4% biden votes.

You can see there is some variability but the percentage of mail-in does correlate with the biden numbers.  Now, let's have a look at Wayne county, which at 1.35m registered voters completely dwarfs all other counties.

Wayne: 41% mail-in requested, 68.1% biden votes.

What happened in Wayne county?
   Why did the relationship break-down so dramatically and in the democrats favour.  In fact, if this relationship had held in just this county then Trump would have comfortably won Michigan.  I don't have any more data so I can't dig any deeper but this is as suspicious as can be.  I would demand a recount.  I can't prove it but if the Michigan vote count was a stock I would short it, it smells very fishy.
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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2020, 11:00:05 PM »
I personally think it is over, but if one wants to be rigorous in their search for "election integrity" perhaps digging into Dominion Voting Systems would be a worthwhile exercise. Here's your starter info. Dominion voting systems were found, by several states, to be at super high risk of manipulation and largely insecure and prone to hacking. While certain states passed on buying their product, such as Texas, the Dominion product was used in EVERY SINGLE STATE CURRENTLY BEING CONTESTED AND HAS ALREADY, BEEN FOUND TO HAVE FLIPPED TRUMP VOTES TO BIDEN IN IMPORTANT COUNTIES.

And yea, secondarily, Dominion Voting Systems, made significant donations to the Clinton Foundation and have ties to Nancy Pelosi. And oh by the way, its a Canadian company. Probably conservatives like cwericb and Viking....

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Re: US Federal Election - Florida
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2020, 05:52:58 AM »
See, there you go! It's not the Russians after all, its the Canadians!  Shhh, we are trying to keep a low profile while we take over your country. :)
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Re: US Federal Election - Florida
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2020, 06:05:28 AM »
Id be happy if US became a bit more like Canada. How do you keep the ANTIFAs out? You secretly create unrest to keep the simple minded cretins here in the US!

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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2020, 06:39:28 AM »
Id be happy if US became a bit more like Canada. How do you keep the ANTIFAs out? You secretly create unrest to keep the simple minded cretins here in the US!

Well if you believe Cardboard they are already here running the country. :)
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Re: US Federal Election - Florida
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2020, 09:36:28 PM »
I dug this up.  A nice refresher on how the leftists were concerned with the integrity of the US voting system in the 2016 aftermath.   Fine!  Do hand recounts in any closely contested state.

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Maryland congressman Jamie Raskin is a newcomer to the cause of reforming America’s vote-counting machines, welcomed through baptism by fire. In 2015, Maryland’s main election system vendor was bought by a parent company with ties to a Russian oligarch. The state’s election officials did not know about the purchase until July 2018, when the FBI notified them of the potential conflict.

The FBI investigated and did not find any evidence of tampering or sharing of voter data. But the incident was a giant red flag as to the potential vulnerabilities of American democracy – especially as many states have outsourced vote-counting to the private sector. After all, the purchase happened while Russian agents were mounting multiple disinformation and cybersecurity campaigns to interfere with America’s 2016 general election.
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Whether it is through the courts or legislation, Hoke is clear about what is needed.

We need independent auditing and forensics assessments and other kinds of IT assessments that are not controlled by the vendors,” Hoke said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/22/us-voting-machine-private-companies-voter-registration